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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4876095" data-attributes="member: 35909">Thanks!  Glad you like my class, I'm playing it in a gestalt game right now.  I think I made some small changes to it since that posting, I need to make sure it's still accurate.  The "final" version I'm using is on my campaign boards site.  I think it was mostly just changes to the Master Shinobi feat...[sblock]The class on my site: <a href="http://torchofspirit.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rulesinfo&action=display&thread=5&page=1#15" target="_blank">Torch of Spirit - Classes</a>The feat:Master ShinobiYou have mastered one or more of your Ninjutsu Focus abilities.Prerequisite: Ninja of the Sublime Way level 11thBenefit: Based on the Ninjutsu Focus abilities you have, you gain one or more special benefits described below. You gain the benefits for all Ninjutsu Focuses you have, even ones gained after taking this feat.Crippling Strike: As the benefit from Savvy Rogue.Death Attack: You gain a +2 competence bonus on the Death Attack save DC.Defensive Roll: As the benefit from Savvy Rogue.Find Pressure Point: Your chance of dealing SA/SS damage also applies to your chances of delivering a critical hit, even if the creature is normally immune.Harbinger of Death: You gain +1d6 to your Sudden Strike damage against any target that is suffering from fear (Shaken or worse), regardless of the source of fear.Hide in Plain Sight: A number of times per day equal to your Wisdom modifier, after successfully hiding within a shadow, you can transfer to another shadow which you have line of effect to as a free action. The new location must be within 10 ft per Ninja level.Opportunist: As the benefit from Savvy Rogue.Running Climb: You can use Feather Fall as a spell-like ability a number of times per day equal to your Wisdom modifier, CL equal to your Ninja level.Sniper's Eye: Once per day, you can reroll the attack roll of a ranged sneak attack that missed its target. You must take the result of the new roll, even if it is worse than the first one.Springing Attack: You gain a +2 competence bonus on the attack roll when attacking with this ability.Untraceable: When any power or effect takes hold over your mind, you can delay the effects for a short while. This protects against anything the Mind Blank spell would, except it merely delays the onset of such a condition, instead of blocking it outright. Use of this ability requires no concious effort and is automatic, at which point you become aware it is active, though not necessarily what caused it to become active. This ability can be used Wisdom modifer times per day, for a total number of rounds per day equal to your Ninja level, whichever runs out first.[/sblock]And no, I had never seen that Shinobi class before, actually.  It was made about a year before mine, too... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  It looks pretty cool.  Has some similarities to mine, but also a lot of differences, and they both acocmplish different things, as well as having separate "goals."  I notice how he justified not including shadow hand: "The entire point of the shinobi is to protect life and strive to live according to the "laws of nature" (that is ninpo philosophy in a nutshell). Harnessing fell powers from the Plane of Shadow is practically the antithesis of the class."My current character is NE and gestalted with cleric/shadowcraft mage, and worships a god of shadows, so even if I had known of the other class, thematically mine would fit the character concept much better anyway.  Mine's definitely got a preference towards evil and is blatantly less historical and not really geared towards the actual philosophy of ninpo, but rather ninja in mass media.  Still nice to have another ToB ninja class to get ideas from!EDIT: Without reading past page 1 so far, looking at his class more closely I see that Shadow Hand IS included.  Guess he relented a bit on his views for the class...</blockquote>

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