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<blockquote data-quote="Binho" data-source="post: 5913217" data-attributes="member: 6674967"><p>Again, no love for the poor monk... Dancing Mongoose and Raging Mongoose would not be optimized for a monk.</p><p></p><p>I see, flurry can not be used with TWF. I saw <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070410a" target="_blank">this article</a> and read that unarmed strike can be your off hand weapon with some bonuses (just if you are a monk).</p><p></p><p>According to the article, the Monk 1/Warblade 19 that have Bab of +19/+14/+9/+4 can use a great sword as the primary attack and the unarmed strike as the secondary attack. </p><p></p><p>If this build uses flurry, he would be able to attack only with unarmed strike with +17/+17/+12/+7/+2, five attacks with unarmed damage + full STR modifier. With raging mongoose it would be +17/+17/+17/+17/+12/+7/+2. Total of 7 attacks with 1d6+STR of damage.</p><p></p><p>If this build take the <a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/two-weapon-fighting--2998/" target="_blank">two weapon fighting feat</a>, the total of attacks would be +17/+12/+7/+2 with the great sword (damage equal to 2d6+1.5*STR mod) plus one +19 unarmed attack (damage equal to unarmed damage+full STR mod). Total of five attacks that deal more damage and has better attack bonus than the flurry. Besides, this build could use the Raging Mongoose to make +17/+17/+17/+12/+7/+2 with GS plus +19/+19/+19 with unarmed strike. Total of 6 attacks with 2d6+1.5*STR and 3 attacks with 1d6+STR of damage.</p><p>I'm not even counting <a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/greater-two-weapon-fighting--1311/" target="_blank">Greater</a>/<a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/improved-two-weapon-fighting--1593/" target="_blank">Improved</a> Two Weapon Fighting feat.</p><p></p><p>A monk would be better taking Devastating Strike instead of Flurry and taking TWF feat...</p><p></p><p>But question 5 still remains: can I combine time stand still with flashing sun? So i would use the same routine of monk with great sword on the first full round attack and use the flashing sun with the second full round attack (totalizing 17 attacks)?</p><p></p><p>What about question 7: Can I use <a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-adventurer--54/ascetic-mage--127/" target="_blank">ascetic mage</a>/<a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/champions-of-valor--28/carmendine-monk--292/" target="_blank">carmendine monk</a>/kung fu genius with Swordsage WIS to AC? If I take Unarmed Swordsage adaptation, the WIS to AC stop function when light armor or it still function if I get light armor proficiency from another source?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Binho, post: 5913217, member: 6674967"] Again, no love for the poor monk... Dancing Mongoose and Raging Mongoose would not be optimized for a monk. I see, flurry can not be used with TWF. I saw [URL="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070410a"]this article[/URL] and read that unarmed strike can be your off hand weapon with some bonuses (just if you are a monk). According to the article, the Monk 1/Warblade 19 that have Bab of +19/+14/+9/+4 can use a great sword as the primary attack and the unarmed strike as the secondary attack. If this build uses flurry, he would be able to attack only with unarmed strike with +17/+17/+12/+7/+2, five attacks with unarmed damage + full STR modifier. With raging mongoose it would be +17/+17/+17/+17/+12/+7/+2. Total of 7 attacks with 1d6+STR of damage. If this build take the [URL="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/two-weapon-fighting--2998/"]two weapon fighting feat[/URL], the total of attacks would be +17/+12/+7/+2 with the great sword (damage equal to 2d6+1.5*STR mod) plus one +19 unarmed attack (damage equal to unarmed damage+full STR mod). Total of five attacks that deal more damage and has better attack bonus than the flurry. Besides, this build could use the Raging Mongoose to make +17/+17/+17/+12/+7/+2 with GS plus +19/+19/+19 with unarmed strike. Total of 6 attacks with 2d6+1.5*STR and 3 attacks with 1d6+STR of damage. I'm not even counting [URL="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/greater-two-weapon-fighting--1311/"]Greater[/URL]/[URL="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/improved-two-weapon-fighting--1593/"]Improved[/URL] Two Weapon Fighting feat. A monk would be better taking Devastating Strike instead of Flurry and taking TWF feat... But question 5 still remains: can I combine time stand still with flashing sun? So i would use the same routine of monk with great sword on the first full round attack and use the flashing sun with the second full round attack (totalizing 17 attacks)? What about question 7: Can I use [URL="http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-adventurer--54/ascetic-mage--127/"]ascetic mage[/URL]/[URL="http://dndtools.eu/feats/champions-of-valor--28/carmendine-monk--292/"]carmendine monk[/URL]/kung fu genius with Swordsage WIS to AC? If I take Unarmed Swordsage adaptation, the WIS to AC stop function when light armor or it still function if I get light armor proficiency from another source? [/QUOTE]
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