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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gribble" data-source="post: 3019592" data-attributes="member: 12430">Oh, I wasn't glossing over that at all. I just disagree that by 20th level a warblade is going to be substantially worse than a fighter in raw attack/damage bonuses.How many feats add to raw damage output as part of a full attack? weapon focus, weapon spec, the improved versions from the PHB 2, power attack (I'm probably missing some, but those are the key ones, right)? By 20th level a warblade can have all those feats, and in conjunction with something like the stance above, I'd argue he'd be at least as effective in raw attack/damage bonuses. Plus, the "make 2 full attacks" maneuver is a strike, meaning the character above gets +2 to hit and +6 to damage on all of those melee attacks (yes, thats right, all 6 attacks!). What feat does a fighter have that would make him equivalent to that?Sure, a fighter would have more options in terms of trip, disarm, cleave, etc (but the warblade would have access to maneuvers to compensate). And in terms of raw, basic attacks I fail to see how an approprtiately built warblade wouldn't be at least as effective...</blockquote>