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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 811148" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>Saw it. Wasn't entirely sure they even got the OGL right (as it turns out, they got special permission from Clark Peterson so it was right). As has already been pointed out, lip service.</p><p></p><p>Two monsters, in the very back of the monster book, clearly meant not as inclusions with WotC stuff, but essentially as a "tooting our own horn, aren't we great" move... blah. That's not "using" other peoples' OGC, that's advertising "how great we are."</p><p></p><p>When WotC incorporates the rules for enhancing familiars found in Spells & Spellcraft (FFG) into the PH or the T&B splat equivalent, I'll be impressed. When they incorporate into the DMG the rules for intelligent weapons in the Book of Eldritch Might III (Malhavoc), I'll be impressed. When they drop in several demons and devils from Armies of the Abyss and Legions of Hell (Green Ronin) to go with their MM3, I'll be impressed. When they add Prestige Classes from the Scarred Lands stuff (SSS) to "WotC's PrCs", I'll be impressed.</p><p></p><p>Then again, very few third-party publishers are re-using material, either, so perhaps it's foolish for me to imagine WotC doing so... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> When will d20 publishers (WotC included) quit re-inventing the wheel and work on inventing the station wagon?</p><p></p><p>Then again, I guess I just (foolishly) hoped that when somebody came out with a crackerjack system of doing something, that would quickly become the de facto standard across the d20 publishing community. We wouldn't see the same thing hit from 20 angles over the course of 3 years.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there would be re-prints - but I think reprinting stuff to add to the "completeness" of a collection is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing - provided there is useful NEW content as well.</p><p></p><p>Although, as we have seen from Green Ronin's Arcane/Divine Grimoires, a lot of people LIKE a "cut/paste of the best of the best" but with no new material.</p><p></p><p>--The Sigil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 811148, member: 2013"] Saw it. Wasn't entirely sure they even got the OGL right (as it turns out, they got special permission from Clark Peterson so it was right). As has already been pointed out, lip service. Two monsters, in the very back of the monster book, clearly meant not as inclusions with WotC stuff, but essentially as a "tooting our own horn, aren't we great" move... blah. That's not "using" other peoples' OGC, that's advertising "how great we are." When WotC incorporates the rules for enhancing familiars found in Spells & Spellcraft (FFG) into the PH or the T&B splat equivalent, I'll be impressed. When they incorporate into the DMG the rules for intelligent weapons in the Book of Eldritch Might III (Malhavoc), I'll be impressed. When they drop in several demons and devils from Armies of the Abyss and Legions of Hell (Green Ronin) to go with their MM3, I'll be impressed. When they add Prestige Classes from the Scarred Lands stuff (SSS) to "WotC's PrCs", I'll be impressed. Then again, very few third-party publishers are re-using material, either, so perhaps it's foolish for me to imagine WotC doing so... :( When will d20 publishers (WotC included) quit re-inventing the wheel and work on inventing the station wagon? Then again, I guess I just (foolishly) hoped that when somebody came out with a crackerjack system of doing something, that would quickly become the de facto standard across the d20 publishing community. We wouldn't see the same thing hit from 20 angles over the course of 3 years. Yes, there would be re-prints - but I think reprinting stuff to add to the "completeness" of a collection is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing - provided there is useful NEW content as well. Although, as we have seen from Green Ronin's Arcane/Divine Grimoires, a lot of people LIKE a "cut/paste of the best of the best" but with no new material. --The Sigil [/QUOTE]
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