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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 816564" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p>Well, they are actually supporting all campaigns, including epic ones, that feature psionics. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Furthermore, they already released a monster manual for epic campaigns... It is called Deities & Demigods <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>More seriously, I'm not sure there's really a need for new epic monsters. They tend to get a bit ridiculous. And with fiendish PrC, templates and stuff (epic-pseudonatural paragon half slarecian dragon axiomatic pit fiend of legend with a host of symbionts), epic encounters may be made up from already existing blocks.</p><p></p><p>I call that the Desmodu Syndrome: generic monsters are not meant to be used at all level. Desmodu don't make sense because 12-HD humanoids don't make sense. In the ELH, I have the same doubt on the LeShay. Epic level is about <u>special</u> individuals, not bland random encounters. So, one could have placed a 60 HD epic goblin race in the Fiend Folio. Would have it made sense ? I don't think so. Encounters and combat, when they occurs, are not simple kick-in-the-door and whack-on-the-head. They demand preparation. More preparation than creating a new monster. They demand to be tailor-made. Which ain't possible in a generic book.</p><p></p><p>It also somewhat breaks the cosmology of the game. So I have my 50 HD Asmodeus ruling over all Hell. Mere pit fiends, who may at best become 39 HD, have no hope to be a match for him. Other archdevils, capping at 45, can't cope either. Still, Asmo must obey to higher powers, vile deities with their divine ranks and 60+ HD.</p><p></p><p>And then, suddenly, appear a race of überfiends, devils with 200 HD and squamous blast attack. They can eat the whole pantheon for breakfast. And they are supposed to always have been there. Either I decide I won't use them, and they are lost bookspace, or I use them and have to reword my cosmology, maybe even multiplying ten times the stats of my outsider overlords and gods. Which is boring and time-consuming, and break consistency if there has already been interaction with the party of PCs.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and besides, it is better for you they don't release too much epic monsters anyway. Havn't you said you had too much monsters in your IH already and you were going to cut more than a few for the release ? This will allow you to sell "Immortal Monsters" as a sourcebook for the IH... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 816564, member: 1328"] Well, they are actually supporting all campaigns, including epic ones, that feature psionics. :D Furthermore, they already released a monster manual for epic campaigns... It is called Deities & Demigods :p More seriously, I'm not sure there's really a need for new epic monsters. They tend to get a bit ridiculous. And with fiendish PrC, templates and stuff (epic-pseudonatural paragon half slarecian dragon axiomatic pit fiend of legend with a host of symbionts), epic encounters may be made up from already existing blocks. I call that the Desmodu Syndrome: generic monsters are not meant to be used at all level. Desmodu don't make sense because 12-HD humanoids don't make sense. In the ELH, I have the same doubt on the LeShay. Epic level is about [u]special[/u] individuals, not bland random encounters. So, one could have placed a 60 HD epic goblin race in the Fiend Folio. Would have it made sense ? I don't think so. Encounters and combat, when they occurs, are not simple kick-in-the-door and whack-on-the-head. They demand preparation. More preparation than creating a new monster. They demand to be tailor-made. Which ain't possible in a generic book. It also somewhat breaks the cosmology of the game. So I have my 50 HD Asmodeus ruling over all Hell. Mere pit fiends, who may at best become 39 HD, have no hope to be a match for him. Other archdevils, capping at 45, can't cope either. Still, Asmo must obey to higher powers, vile deities with their divine ranks and 60+ HD. And then, suddenly, appear a race of überfiends, devils with 200 HD and squamous blast attack. They can eat the whole pantheon for breakfast. And they are supposed to always have been there. Either I decide I won't use them, and they are lost bookspace, or I use them and have to reword my cosmology, maybe even multiplying ten times the stats of my outsider overlords and gods. Which is boring and time-consuming, and break consistency if there has already been interaction with the party of PCs. Oh, and besides, it is better for you they don't release too much epic monsters anyway. Havn't you said you had too much monsters in your IH already and you were going to cut more than a few for the release ? This will allow you to sell "Immortal Monsters" as a sourcebook for the IH... :D [/QUOTE]
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