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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 547629" data-attributes="member: 1241">Flexor's response, though highly opinionated, is right on the nose.  the only reasons the fiends were renamed was due to the late 80s/early 90s fear of the MADD crowd (mothers against dungeons and dragons - yes, it was a real group - for those who don't remember or never know).  these people seriously threatened D&D at that time.  it took 2-3 years before TSR took that first semi-brave step and brought them back, seriously toned down and renamed, but back again for sure.  it was also this motivation that inspired the creators of planescape to rename the planes when that setting came out a few years later.and then again, when WotC came out with D&D 3E a couple years ago, they took a bold step in denying what planescape was so defensive on.  yes, tanar'ri ARE demons.  baatezu ARE devils.  then planes, though they may have other names, ARE heavens and hells.  in the end, that stance gave us the opinion that we all needed - take your pick, a rose by any other name, and all that.</blockquote>