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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5544074" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Eh, I think you may be overthinking it. You can buy an RC and whatever HotF* books you want and just play, if you want to just run Essentials classes (which may be fine, particularly if you want to say play a wizard which basically hasn't changed in any significant way). If you want to play core classes then get PHB1 etc. </p><p></p><p>Yes, there is errata. There is a single consolidated errata PDF you can download, but frankly if you're just playing the changes to any specific class or race are pretty limited. You can either go through the errata and figure out what impact they have or not worry about it and as long as you don't try to build gimmick characters you're not going to run into major problems (maybe you might find that some power is a bit nerfed or there's a better feat, but it won't ruin your character).</p><p></p><p>I don't think 4e is a 'pretzel' at all. Everything works fine with everything else and even as a player you're surely free to ignore anything you don't feel like using.</p><p></p><p>As for DDI, it is just a huge convenience, seriously. For 10 bucks you can D/L everything that has come out in Dungeon and Dragon mags. CB is very very handy, but it doesn't add anything materially to the game itself, so if you stop subscribing you've lost nothing. I mean this assumes you don't mind PDFs, but frankly in this day and age you're going to run into a lot of PDF stuff. This is really not all that different a situation from your other main choice, Pathfinder. Notice that even PF is coming out with a 'basic' version. Any popular system that has been around for a while is going to have a lot of options. You just have to pick and choose what you want. </p><p></p><p>And if you're DMing? Well, then it is all your call. Allow or disallow whatever you want. If players want to use stuff you don't have, then they'll have to dig it up themselves and run it by you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5544074, member: 82106"] Eh, I think you may be overthinking it. You can buy an RC and whatever HotF* books you want and just play, if you want to just run Essentials classes (which may be fine, particularly if you want to say play a wizard which basically hasn't changed in any significant way). If you want to play core classes then get PHB1 etc. Yes, there is errata. There is a single consolidated errata PDF you can download, but frankly if you're just playing the changes to any specific class or race are pretty limited. You can either go through the errata and figure out what impact they have or not worry about it and as long as you don't try to build gimmick characters you're not going to run into major problems (maybe you might find that some power is a bit nerfed or there's a better feat, but it won't ruin your character). I don't think 4e is a 'pretzel' at all. Everything works fine with everything else and even as a player you're surely free to ignore anything you don't feel like using. As for DDI, it is just a huge convenience, seriously. For 10 bucks you can D/L everything that has come out in Dungeon and Dragon mags. CB is very very handy, but it doesn't add anything materially to the game itself, so if you stop subscribing you've lost nothing. I mean this assumes you don't mind PDFs, but frankly in this day and age you're going to run into a lot of PDF stuff. This is really not all that different a situation from your other main choice, Pathfinder. Notice that even PF is coming out with a 'basic' version. Any popular system that has been around for a while is going to have a lot of options. You just have to pick and choose what you want. And if you're DMing? Well, then it is all your call. Allow or disallow whatever you want. If players want to use stuff you don't have, then they'll have to dig it up themselves and run it by you. [/QUOTE]
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