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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 6056299" data-attributes="member: 54877"><p>In a <strong>lot</strong> of tables, this particular thing doesn't matter. The players don't care. "Hey DM, you do your thing, and we'll play along."</p><p> </p><p>So let's say that the rules are presented as Hussar has advocated. By definition, "Hey DM, do your thing," means, "look through the list of options and decide which ones are yes, no, or maybe." If you want to set a few defaults in the course of that, it's no big deal.</p><p> </p><p>So, this only matters in two cases:</p><p> </p><p>1. The DM or players or both want more convenient flexibility in the rules to play the game the way they want -- AKA WotC does the work here, instead of the people at the table, at making good tools--then the players and DM choose what they want.</p><p> </p><p>2. One or more players is chafing at DM authority, and the DM feels like he needs back up -- AKA looking for the book to give you something it really can't give.</p><p> </p><p>Now, outside of those, there is some marginal complexity and hassle added with options. This is true of any complex system with options. However, given that we've all been arguing about this stuff for years, with no apparent end in sight--and that Next is specifically aiming to be, if not all things to all people, at least something worthwhile to most people--then there are better way to solve that problem than picking defaults.</p><p> </p><p>For example, given the set of options, it would be fairly trivial to dedicate 3-5 pages, or maybe some fine print in an appendix, to detailing "suggested defaults" for DMs that want to bypass the choosing of options. Have several versions for the more popular styles. Then provide copies as PDFs. So DM X wants to run a classic dungeon crawl, in AD&D 1E style. Point the players towards that page, and off you go. </p><p> </p><p>It's not rocket science.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 6056299, member: 54877"] In a [B]lot[/B] of tables, this particular thing doesn't matter. The players don't care. "Hey DM, you do your thing, and we'll play along." So let's say that the rules are presented as Hussar has advocated. By definition, "Hey DM, do your thing," means, "look through the list of options and decide which ones are yes, no, or maybe." If you want to set a few defaults in the course of that, it's no big deal. So, this only matters in two cases: 1. The DM or players or both want more convenient flexibility in the rules to play the game the way they want -- AKA WotC does the work here, instead of the people at the table, at making good tools--then the players and DM choose what they want. 2. One or more players is chafing at DM authority, and the DM feels like he needs back up -- AKA looking for the book to give you something it really can't give. Now, outside of those, there is some marginal complexity and hassle added with options. This is true of any complex system with options. However, given that we've all been arguing about this stuff for years, with no apparent end in sight--and that Next is specifically aiming to be, if not all things to all people, at least something worthwhile to most people--then there are better way to solve that problem than picking defaults. For example, given the set of options, it would be fairly trivial to dedicate 3-5 pages, or maybe some fine print in an appendix, to detailing "suggested defaults" for DMs that want to bypass the choosing of options. Have several versions for the more popular styles. Then provide copies as PDFs. So DM X wants to run a classic dungeon crawl, in AD&D 1E style. Point the players towards that page, and off you go. It's not rocket science. [/QUOTE]
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