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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6056683" data-attributes="member: 2067">So the reason I think that the "core rules" might be like that is mostly because people don't generally learn D&D from the books. They learn from playing, in an ongoing game. "Beginner's D&D" to me is actually just making a simple character and playing make-believe with dice. The rules need to get out of the way, to keep a low bar to entry, so that we don't make newbies wade through the esoterica of dice math and square grids and such. I also think that any "Beginner's" product for D&D might be aiming at too small a niche to be viable -- people rarely self-describe as Beginners, and D&D's basic gameplay isn't so complex that it needs an entire product to ramp up to it. Furthermore, the implication that there is "Beginner's D&D" and "Regular D&D" hurts the casual players who are fine with easy characters, but who may have been playing for years and years and years. I mean, I might be totally off-base, but that's why I think that a "Beginner's Box" is less than likely. Simple character types and easy-to-wing-it rules aren't just for newbies, they're also for people who aren't necessarily into tweaking every little knob and dial. I can't say for sure what the layout of the PHB will be, but I'm willing to guess that there's going to be some distinction between elves and dwarves on the one hand, and half-orcs and dragonborn on the other (and I imagine the book will include all of those). Similarly, I bet there's some line that will be drawn between fighters and wizards on the one hand, and monks and barbarians on the other (and I imagine the book will include all of those). What that distinction will look like -- whether it's different chapters, or examples of alternate rules, or icons next to the things in the book itself -- I'm not so sure. But there's going to be a clear signal that these things are opt-in, behind the DM's wall, and not for you unless your DM allows it. And even the normal four-by-four will have words about how the DM might change what options are available. The players who aren't newbies or casual gamers can jump an extra hurdle -- by definition, they're players who can bother jumping extra hurdles. Those who ARE newbies or casual gamers are going to be turned off by the implication that they're not playing "real" D&D, and by having to deal with all the complexities that the game can have up-front if they want to play the "actual" game. Again, could totally be wrong. Just rampant speculation. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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