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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6058849" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Well, sort of. There is a "magic spark" that differentiates magic users from muggles, true, but, without any instruction, the magic user will never be able to use it.</p><p></p><p>Not a huge difference. Sorcerer with implements doesn't really work. After all, sorcerers are loners. They don't congregate in schools because their "talent" is entirely inherent. Flavour wise, wizard is far, far closer. But, I agree that mechanically, sorcerers probably fit a HP wizard better.</p><p></p><p>Which is my point. Why not be able to pick and choose? Why do we have to have defaults?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, that's simply your interpretation of what I said. Hey, if the DM wants to set the baseline, <u>and he can convince his players to go along with it</u>, then no problems. I see nothing wrong, to be honest, with the player in your example. But, maybe there are reasons why all wizards must be Vancian in this world. Granted, in 25 pages of posts, you nor anyone else has provided any compelling arguments as to WHY the DM should ram his preferences down his players throats and why should WOTC back up that DM, but, hey, everyone's game is different.</p><p></p><p>I wonder how impressed you'd be if they decided to set baselines that you didn't like. After all, wizards as Vancian is only that way because all casters were Vancian throughout D&D. There's no compelling reason why wizards in particular should be Vancian. What if all Clerics are now Vancian but Wizards are Spell Point casters, in order to differentiate Arcane from Divine casting? You support WOTC setting baselines, so, this should be perfectly acceptable to you. Or is it only that WOTC can set baselines insofar as you happen to like the baselines being set?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6058849, member: 22779"] Well, sort of. There is a "magic spark" that differentiates magic users from muggles, true, but, without any instruction, the magic user will never be able to use it. Not a huge difference. Sorcerer with implements doesn't really work. After all, sorcerers are loners. They don't congregate in schools because their "talent" is entirely inherent. Flavour wise, wizard is far, far closer. But, I agree that mechanically, sorcerers probably fit a HP wizard better. Which is my point. Why not be able to pick and choose? Why do we have to have defaults? No, that's simply your interpretation of what I said. Hey, if the DM wants to set the baseline, [u]and he can convince his players to go along with it[/u], then no problems. I see nothing wrong, to be honest, with the player in your example. But, maybe there are reasons why all wizards must be Vancian in this world. Granted, in 25 pages of posts, you nor anyone else has provided any compelling arguments as to WHY the DM should ram his preferences down his players throats and why should WOTC back up that DM, but, hey, everyone's game is different. I wonder how impressed you'd be if they decided to set baselines that you didn't like. After all, wizards as Vancian is only that way because all casters were Vancian throughout D&D. There's no compelling reason why wizards in particular should be Vancian. What if all Clerics are now Vancian but Wizards are Spell Point casters, in order to differentiate Arcane from Divine casting? You support WOTC setting baselines, so, this should be perfectly acceptable to you. Or is it only that WOTC can set baselines insofar as you happen to like the baselines being set? [/QUOTE]
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