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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5528921" data-attributes="member: 463">4e often creaks with 6 players (even if players are doing the initiative count etc), 7 is a bad idea, 9 is ridiculous.  Two separate campaigns is a possibility, but raises the issue that people will want to play in both.  Two separate PC groups in the same campaign world, allowing for crossovers but capped at 5 players per table, seems like the best approach.  You can do this with one DM running two groups.  If using two DMs, I recommend using a published campaign world as this really helps keep things on the same page, Nentir Vale would work; so would Forgotten Realms etc.  There must be plenty of liaison between the DMs, both will need to know normally-secret stuff about the others' plans, and indeed their PCs can potentially be enlisted to help further those plans.  Each should have veto over any world-shaking plots (Time of Troubles, Spellplague, Rain of Colourless Fire), though lesser upsets like destroying a city or assassinating a monarch should be fine.</blockquote>