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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3481402" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I think the OP's situation is more one of "Opps. The DM had no clue that this PC was going to be this powerful." To me, it is WotC's responsibility to maintain a certain level of balance and the DM's responsibility to check to make sure this has happened for his game. It is one of the reasons some people come here to the boards to read and write on such topics.</p><p></p><p>It is not the DM's responsibility to change his DMing style. He can do so if he desires, but he should not be required to.</p><p></p><p>It is his responsibility to allow the rules in the game which he considers reasonable and to disallow or modify rules that he does not (which of course could mean that he considers all written rules to be reasonable).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that is why we have house rules.</p><p></p><p>So that the rules can adapt to the DM as opposed to the DM adapting to the rules.</p><p></p><p>The game is about fun and that includes the DM. If the DM is being forced to do strange encounter backflips so that the Wilder is not too powerful, the DM might not be having as much fun as if the game rules just flow in the way he is comfortable.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You are suggesting the DM change his style to handle overpowered crap, I am suggesting that the player either voluntarily drop the overpowered crap or the DM do it for him.</p><p></p><p>Just different approaches, but I think yours infringes on the entitlement of the DM whereas mine infringes on misguided perceived rules entitlement of the player. To me, both are entitled to a certain social contract, but the DM's entitlement is stronger with regard to rules because he is the DM. IMO. If he oversteps this, then the players can vote in a new DM or whatever.</p><p></p><p>But in no way should a DM be forced to adapt to the rule set.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3481402, member: 2011"] I think the OP's situation is more one of "Opps. The DM had no clue that this PC was going to be this powerful." To me, it is WotC's responsibility to maintain a certain level of balance and the DM's responsibility to check to make sure this has happened for his game. It is one of the reasons some people come here to the boards to read and write on such topics. It is not the DM's responsibility to change his DMing style. He can do so if he desires, but he should not be required to. It is his responsibility to allow the rules in the game which he considers reasonable and to disallow or modify rules that he does not (which of course could mean that he considers all written rules to be reasonable). And that is why we have house rules. So that the rules can adapt to the DM as opposed to the DM adapting to the rules. The game is about fun and that includes the DM. If the DM is being forced to do strange encounter backflips so that the Wilder is not too powerful, the DM might not be having as much fun as if the game rules just flow in the way he is comfortable. You are suggesting the DM change his style to handle overpowered crap, I am suggesting that the player either voluntarily drop the overpowered crap or the DM do it for him. Just different approaches, but I think yours infringes on the entitlement of the DM whereas mine infringes on misguided perceived rules entitlement of the player. To me, both are entitled to a certain social contract, but the DM's entitlement is stronger with regard to rules because he is the DM. IMO. If he oversteps this, then the players can vote in a new DM or whatever. But in no way should a DM be forced to adapt to the rule set. [/QUOTE]
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