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<blockquote data-quote="Lwaxy" data-source="post: 5965945" data-attributes="member: 53286">No, it's not untrue. A good part of the 4e haters (not the critiques) don't have much of a motivation but &quot;down with 4e.&quot; I've just experienced a chat session where half the time was spent rejoicing about the death of the hated edition, together with the hopes that nothing of it would go into 5e, all the time not even knowing what 4e was really about, other than &quot;miniatures&quot; and &quot;not an RPG.&quot; There were sentiments of &quot;we won&quot; and &quot;now wizards won't try it again&quot; among other even more strange comments. And the atmosphere in the FLGS' around here is largely similar, complete with store owners commenting on how 4e players usually don't want to play in the store. Someone would inevitably come in and make snide comments. There is a big difference between people who don't play 4e - because the rules aren't what they want for D&amp;D and who vocalize their concerns in a useful, polite manner, and who generally don't care if people play 4e and enjoy it.- who jump at you for mentioning you play or, as it has happened to me, for mentioning you took some of the 4e ideas into your houserules. Or make people leave their non-4e groups because of the constant jibes. So no, it's not &quot;just bull.&quot; I've seen and heard it, and the community's tendencies to swipe it under the rug is irritating. And those who come at you at games or conventions with anti-4e comments are usually those who don't care what exactly the rules are.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lwaxy, post: 5965945, member: 53286"] No, it's not untrue. A good part of the 4e haters (not the critiques) don't have much of a motivation but "down with 4e." I've just experienced a chat session where half the time was spent rejoicing about the death of the hated edition, together with the hopes that nothing of it would go into 5e, all the time not even knowing what 4e was really about, other than "miniatures" and "not an RPG." There were sentiments of "we won" and "now wizards won't try it again" among other even more strange comments. And the atmosphere in the FLGS' around here is largely similar, complete with store owners commenting on how 4e players usually don't want to play in the store. Someone would inevitably come in and make snide comments. There is a big difference between people who don't play 4e - because the rules aren't what they want for D&D and who vocalize their concerns in a useful, polite manner, and who generally don't care if people play 4e and enjoy it. - who jump at you for mentioning you play or, as it has happened to me, for mentioning you took some of the 4e ideas into your houserules. Or make people leave their non-4e groups because of the constant jibes. So no, it's not "just bull." I've seen and heard it, and the community's tendencies to swipe it under the rug is irritating. And those who come at you at games or conventions with anti-4e comments are usually those who don't care what exactly the rules are. [/QUOTE]

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