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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6852680" data-attributes="member: 996">Actually, I've seen a few people try, but I've never actually witnessed one succeeding, myself.  But that's beside the point.  They're still using a tool, just an improvised one.  Part of the idea of tool proficiency as opposed to skill proficiency is that there's a tool involved, without which you can't perform the task.  (Of course, another part of it is that tool proficiencies are apparently open-ended, there's a set number of skills, but there might always be more tools.  You encounter a warp-drive repair kit, you might be able to invest enough downtime to become proficient with it.)That works too.They're a common ground for players who happen to read them and come to the same conclusion about what they mean - otherwise place to start for the DM.  It's definitely not written as a technical manual or user's guide.  But you can read through it and get a feel for the game and some inspiration for the kind of character you might want to play or campaign you might want to run.  And the rules provide a framework to do most of that, up to the point that there's any uncertainty or disagreement - at which point it's the DM's job to resolve it.</blockquote>