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Message: <blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 6853420" data-attributes="member: 12377">The more I think about this, the more it sounds like a failure of bounded accuracy with regards to skills and tools.It sounds like people want to differentiate characters. But the game doesn't give very many ways to differentiate characters in the exploration and social pillars, so people expect bonus numbers and success rates to do it for them (plus, that's our expectation based on previous editions and other RPGs).Ask yourself this: why aren't people upset that the wizard, rogue, and fighter all have pretty much the same attack bonus? "Shouldn't the fighter have the much higher bonus?" one might ask. But those characters don't need to differentiate by bonus because the effect of success varies for them. The fighter is attacking multiple times in a round with a heavy-hitting weapon; the rogue is attacking just once, but for massive sneak attack damage; the wizard gets to burn people for moderate damage, except when he pops off a spell slot.A few class and racial features and feats grant mild benefits to skill or tool use, but not enough to differentiate characters. That's why we're discussing hypothetical "barbarian who has never seen a door before." The game's hack to solve this is Expertise, which I hate because it throws bounded accuracy all out of whack. I really wish, instead, that there were more abilities that made skill or tool use faster or better or gave some characters unique benefits or let them overcome unusual restrictions.</blockquote>

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