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<blockquote data-quote="Sledge" data-source="post: 2884041" data-attributes="member: 9324">the point big dummy, is that they DIDN'T refer to it as crazy.&nbsp; There are multiple articles on the ARMA site, as well as discussion on the forums that not only indicates that for a two handed sword 8 pounds is within the normal range, but that the weapons you keep referring to at the 5-6 pound range are meant to be held with ONE or TWO hands alternatively.I will reiterate this once again, the weapon stats in D&amp;D can be compared to weight and usage.&nbsp; An 8 pound sword is a two handed sword.&nbsp; Those ones that qualify as hand and a half are the d&amp;d bastard swords.&nbsp; They are frequently wielded two handed or one handed.&nbsp; Weigh around 5-6 pounds.&nbsp; The lighter weapons (2-4 pounds) are the long swords which represent the heavier end of the one handed weapons, and down to the short swords and rapiers with represent the lightest weight swords.&nbsp; Why is it that you insist that the greatsword really represents swords that can be used with one hand?&nbsp; If the great sword should weigh 6 pounds and be usable one handed, just call it the bastard sword.&nbsp; Other wise you have to put the bastard sword down to 4 pounds and not needing EWP.&nbsp; The long swords will have to drop to 2 pounds and the short swords and rapiers can be 0 pounds.&nbsp; Sounds a little crazy to me.Perhaps there is a better way to resolve this.&nbsp; Will you concede at least that the 3e greatsword is the same weapon as the 2e two-handed sword?And spathology is a term and field invented by ARMA.&nbsp; The very nature of it is out of its usage in ARMA.&nbsp; Remember there aren't a lot of 600 year old instruction books on swords.&nbsp; None of the articles I've seen online state that swords were never 8 pounds.&nbsp; In fact the consensus I've seen is that there was a huge spectrum of sword weights from under 2 pounds to just over 8 pounds, that are considered combat weapons.&nbsp; There are of course much larger ceremonial weapons as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sledge, post: 2884041, member: 9324"] the point big dummy, is that they DIDN'T refer to it as crazy. There are multiple articles on the ARMA site, as well as discussion on the forums that not only indicates that for a two handed sword 8 pounds is within the normal range, but that the weapons you keep referring to at the 5-6 pound range are meant to be held with ONE or TWO hands alternatively. I will reiterate this once again, the weapon stats in D&D can be compared to weight and usage. An 8 pound sword is a two handed sword. Those ones that qualify as hand and a half are the d&d bastard swords. They are frequently wielded two handed or one handed. Weigh around 5-6 pounds. The lighter weapons (2-4 pounds) are the long swords which represent the heavier end of the one handed weapons, and down to the short swords and rapiers with represent the lightest weight swords. Why is it that you insist that the greatsword really represents swords that can be used with one hand? If the great sword should weigh 6 pounds and be usable one handed, just call it the bastard sword. Other wise you have to put the bastard sword down to 4 pounds and not needing EWP. The long swords will have to drop to 2 pounds and the short swords and rapiers can be 0 pounds. Sounds a little crazy to me. Perhaps there is a better way to resolve this. Will you concede at least that the 3e greatsword is the same weapon as the 2e two-handed sword? And spathology is a term and field invented by ARMA. The very nature of it is out of its usage in ARMA. Remember there aren't a lot of 600 year old instruction books on swords. None of the articles I've seen online state that swords were never 8 pounds. In fact the consensus I've seen is that there was a huge spectrum of sword weights from under 2 pounds to just over 8 pounds, that are considered combat weapons. There are of course much larger ceremonial weapons as well. [/QUOTE]

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