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Message: <blockquote data-quote="big dummy" data-source="post: 2896685" data-attributes="member: 41052">The thing is, based on knowing a bit of what armor is really like to wear, touch, be touched by etc., and some of the tests done on real or realisitc armor, if you are actually assuming something like a full plate harness I think this is actually going to be hard and painful to try to bite through or grasp for anything but the largest creatures.  I mean, a 10 foot bull shark cant' even bite through (aluminum alloy) shark-proof chainmail gnawwing and gnawwing.  Given how strong we know plate armor was, how is even a Dragon going to bite through it without breaking his teeth.  Given the physics of some longbow and crossbow test-firings I've seen done, I seriously doubt even a grizzly, a polar bear or a full grown tiger could bite or claw a man in full harness (the only way it could do damage would be blunt trauma of knocking yer knight down etc.) and I guarantee pouncing on a plate armored opponent would be damaging to the teeth / claws of the critter in question (unless they were themselves made of tempered steel or some imaginary magical metal like adamantium), not to mention to any other exposed flesh.  Wrestling with an armored knight is a great way to break bones and abrade fur and hide in fact.In other words, I really don't think you would need spikes even if they did make sense, which I don't think they do.BD</blockquote>