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Message: <blockquote data-quote="big dummy" data-source="post: 2897683" data-attributes="member: 41052">I dont' know, I'm not a physiscist, but I've seen a musket ball and a bolt from a 1200 lb crossbow bounce right off of a tempered steel breastplate.  That is hard stuff.  Most people never even see tempered steel these days, usually just stainless steel which is considerably weaker and far more brittle.  But try bending or denting 12 guage stainless steel for that matter (let alone breaking through it).  Pick up a stainless steel frying pan and see how easily you can rip it apart it in your bare hands.  Now try to imagine if it was about twice as strong.There are probably people in this forum from the SCA who have a lot more direct experience than I do with heavy armor (including coat of plates) and how easy it is to crush or puncture.  Frankly I think a giant, say ten feet tall, would tear himself up trying to grapple a knight in full harness, (though he may well be able to buffet that indivdual to the point of death inside of that armor, or say, twist his head all the way around).  Of course, if you get big enough, eventually you will reach a point where you could probably crush steel.  I don't know the math.BD</blockquote>