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Message: <blockquote data-quote="big dummy" data-source="post: 2900733" data-attributes="member: 41052">I know what a morstshlag is, I've been studying WMA for 7 years.  It's a good way to attack armor with a tempered steel quillion using significant leverage.  However, while that show can surmise as to what they think would happen, I disagree based on One of the guys I train with uses a replica Italian barbutte.  I hit him routinely hard enough to break bones if he wasn't wearing armor, and he barely even feels it.  You should watch some SCA combat some time.  A 250 lb guy with 50 lbs of armor charging down a hill to smack someone in the head with a 3 lb solid wooden club can generate a lot of force too, and these guys barely even notice it.  And they are wearing helmets made of as little as 16 guage simple mild steel plate for the most part.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7BIjuAdZXU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7BIjuAdZXU</a>The idea of a leopard being able to knock out a man wearing a helmet like that with some kind of bruce-lee punch is laughable to me.A really big grizzly or polar bear could possibly kill a guy in plate armor especially if he wasn't fighting back, but it would defiantely be a challenge, a painful challenge to boot.  The main thing is that their teeth and claws could not penetrate. Many people have survived bear maulings without having their heads caved in or knocked off or their rib cages caved in, again from the damage I've seen on the numerous documentaries they air on animal attacks on Discovery, Discovery Science, national geographic explorer etc. etc. the deaths and serious injuries seemed to have been caused primarily by teeth and claws.BD</blockquote>

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