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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8539617" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Well, how far did the Vikings ever actually sail from land, and how long did they ever remain continuously at sea in their vessels. We know that they went from Scandinavia across the North Sea to Britain, but these crossings weren't continuous sea journeys, they stopped in the Shetland Islands (which are pretty much in direct line of almost any crossing from Norway). If you went to Iceland, you then stopped in the Faroe Islands, and there were other islands along the way which were likely 'camping spots' at the very least. So, the biggest gap there is from the Faroes to Iceland, 200km. No doubt you'd be at sea for several days. The gap between Iceland and Greenland is considerably smaller, maybe 60km, though sailing on down to the southern point of Greenland and around into the Labrador Sea is several hundred miles, but all along a coastline where it is quite possible to haul out. </p><p></p><p>Its unclear exactly what route was actually taken from Greenland to the west, although the most direct route, straight South West across the Labrador Sea is pretty long. Anyway, the sagas tell us this entire journey was pretty risky! </p><p></p><p>So, OK, you might want something for open ocean, if you were dealing with such an epic crossing. I think its likely that 99% of TB2 journeying would be a bit less ambitious, so it seems to me like you could get away with some fairly basic rules and cover most cases (IE sailing up a river, or up or down the coast). It seems like stock TB2 kind of envisages a basic milieu where the action takes place in something a bit like a 'fantasy Greenland' where the PC's society is kind of at the extreme furthest advance of civilization and is doomed to be rolled back, sort of like Viking Greenland. I guess you could mount an epic journey further west for some McGuffin or other...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8539617, member: 82106"] Well, how far did the Vikings ever actually sail from land, and how long did they ever remain continuously at sea in their vessels. We know that they went from Scandinavia across the North Sea to Britain, but these crossings weren't continuous sea journeys, they stopped in the Shetland Islands (which are pretty much in direct line of almost any crossing from Norway). If you went to Iceland, you then stopped in the Faroe Islands, and there were other islands along the way which were likely 'camping spots' at the very least. So, the biggest gap there is from the Faroes to Iceland, 200km. No doubt you'd be at sea for several days. The gap between Iceland and Greenland is considerably smaller, maybe 60km, though sailing on down to the southern point of Greenland and around into the Labrador Sea is several hundred miles, but all along a coastline where it is quite possible to haul out. Its unclear exactly what route was actually taken from Greenland to the west, although the most direct route, straight South West across the Labrador Sea is pretty long. Anyway, the sagas tell us this entire journey was pretty risky! So, OK, you might want something for open ocean, if you were dealing with such an epic crossing. I think its likely that 99% of TB2 journeying would be a bit less ambitious, so it seems to me like you could get away with some fairly basic rules and cover most cases (IE sailing up a river, or up or down the coast). It seems like stock TB2 kind of envisages a basic milieu where the action takes place in something a bit like a 'fantasy Greenland' where the PC's society is kind of at the extreme furthest advance of civilization and is doomed to be rolled back, sort of like Viking Greenland. I guess you could mount an epic journey further west for some McGuffin or other... [/QUOTE]
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