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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8614363" data-attributes="member: 82106">Look, obviously the participants can agree on any alteration to the fiction they want, even to things that have been causally established, that is become canonical. Obviously this will create an incoherent narrative in those cases, but otherwise it is just an agreement to make a change. I don't think whether is is due to 'forgetting' or some other process really matters. In that case the FICTIONAL PAST is now &quot;there has always been a door here&quot;, though obviously the IRL trajectory of the fiction's history includes a retcon. Honestly, when we are talking about the past state of the fiction, what is 'past'?I mean, remember the classic Sci-Fi story about the guy who invents the time machine, and the then the spy shows up and tells him &quot;You fool, what have you done, the past starts an INFINITESSIMAL instant before 'now', you have just abolished the very concept of secrets!&quot; (IE I can simply use the machine to look at a 'past time' 1 nanosecond ago). Likewise, much of the time our testing of fiction will happen very quickly upon its first arrival in play. To argue about 'now' vs 'a microscopic instant ago' is to split hairs pointlessly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8614363, member: 82106"] Look, obviously the participants can agree on any alteration to the fiction they want, even to things that have been causally established, that is become canonical. Obviously this will create an incoherent narrative in those cases, but otherwise it is just an agreement to make a change. I don't think whether is is due to 'forgetting' or some other process really matters. In that case the FICTIONAL PAST is now "there has always been a door here", though obviously the IRL trajectory of the fiction's history includes a retcon. Honestly, when we are talking about the past state of the fiction, what is 'past'? I mean, remember the classic Sci-Fi story about the guy who invents the time machine, and the then the spy shows up and tells him "You fool, what have you done, the past starts an INFINITESSIMAL instant before 'now', you have just abolished the very concept of secrets!" (IE I can simply use the machine to look at a 'past time' 1 nanosecond ago). Likewise, much of the time our testing of fiction will happen very quickly upon its first arrival in play. To argue about 'now' vs 'a microscopic instant ago' is to split hairs pointlessly. [/QUOTE]

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