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(Totally-OT) I really need some advice... bad!
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<blockquote data-quote="Teflon Billy" data-source="post: 83292" data-attributes="member: 264"><p>You will not bea ble to maintain good relations with both of them if you attempt this (but it doesn't sound like you have much of a chance of that anyway). The following advice is for if you decide that you want soemthing with Ann more than a continued relationship with Morgan.</p><p></p><p>This is not an unworkable situation, but you'll have to treat it as a longer-term plan than most of the variations we have heard on "just tell him/her/them how you feel" (which is, I might add, <em>atrocious</em> advice if you hope for any other outcome besdies "both of them hate you").</p><p></p><p><strong>Point one in your favor</strong>: Ann seems comfortable being alone with you. Most of the following advice needs to be used when you and she are alone.</p><p></p><p><strong>Point two in your favor</strong>: You seem to be in that "really good gay friend" role that girls of that age seem to attach to straight guys who are sexually interested, but not particularly forward with them about it. This gives you a good platform to work from.</p><p></p><p><strong>Point three in your favor</strong>: You mention that Ann seems dissatisfied with the relationship with Morgan. This is the "Chink in the Armor" that you can work on.</p><p></p><p>Here we go...</p><p></p><p>1) <em>Do not</em> declare your love for her yet. </p><p></p><p>2) <strong>Listen</strong>: It may take awhile, but eventually (if she is, indeed, dissatisfied with Morgan) she will begin to complain. You are her "Eunuch" at the moment: Her sexless male friend. </p><p></p><p>Nurture this. Recount your own stories about Morgan's flaws. Build a shared camraderie over Morgan's failings. Men bond over shared activity, Women bond over the <em>sharing of secrets</em>. </p><p></p><p>Share her dissatisfaction with Morgan.</p><p></p><p>3) <strong>Get her to start thinking of you as a sexual being</strong>: And no, I don't mean anything overt. Touch her hand occasionally in conversation. Hug her as a greeting (no as a farewell; too much tension there), just anything that can get you on the road away from that "realy good friend" role and into the "new boyfriend" role.</p><p></p><p>I'll repeat in case you missed it: Act on this advice and you can forget Morgan being your friend.</p><p></p><p>But if you want Ann, it can be done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Teflon Billy, post: 83292, member: 264"] You will not bea ble to maintain good relations with both of them if you attempt this (but it doesn't sound like you have much of a chance of that anyway). The following advice is for if you decide that you want soemthing with Ann more than a continued relationship with Morgan. This is not an unworkable situation, but you'll have to treat it as a longer-term plan than most of the variations we have heard on "just tell him/her/them how you feel" (which is, I might add, [i]atrocious[/i] advice if you hope for any other outcome besdies "both of them hate you"). [b]Point one in your favor[/b]: Ann seems comfortable being alone with you. Most of the following advice needs to be used when you and she are alone. [b]Point two in your favor[/b]: You seem to be in that "really good gay friend" role that girls of that age seem to attach to straight guys who are sexually interested, but not particularly forward with them about it. This gives you a good platform to work from. [b]Point three in your favor[/b]: You mention that Ann seems dissatisfied with the relationship with Morgan. This is the "Chink in the Armor" that you can work on. Here we go... 1) [i]Do not[/i] declare your love for her yet. 2) [b]Listen[/b]: It may take awhile, but eventually (if she is, indeed, dissatisfied with Morgan) she will begin to complain. You are her "Eunuch" at the moment: Her sexless male friend. Nurture this. Recount your own stories about Morgan's flaws. Build a shared camraderie over Morgan's failings. Men bond over shared activity, Women bond over the [i]sharing of secrets[/i]. Share her dissatisfaction with Morgan. 3) [b]Get her to start thinking of you as a sexual being[/b]: And no, I don't mean anything overt. Touch her hand occasionally in conversation. Hug her as a greeting (no as a farewell; too much tension there), just anything that can get you on the road away from that "realy good friend" role and into the "new boyfriend" role. I'll repeat in case you missed it: Act on this advice and you can forget Morgan being your friend. But if you want Ann, it can be done. [/QUOTE]
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