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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 359979" data-attributes="member: 812">Actually, he's right. But we use the phrase (or we should) &quot;begging the question&quot; to indicate that someone is using circular logic.Here's a prime example: The City of God, by St. Augustine. In it (and bear with me, scholars -- that actuality of what S.A. said is less important than the demonstrated principle) Augustine is arguing against the worship of the classical divinities. To drastically reduce a long and complicated argument, he says, &quot;The divinities the Greeks describe must be less than the the divinity the Christians describe, so you must worship the Christian god.&quot;One could say that he is begging the question of the need to worship any god whatsoever. That is, he is assuming we answer the question &quot;Should we worship a god?&quot; in the affirmative, and proceeding with his argument from there.That example was going to be clearer when I started. It got muddy. Must have been thinking about Jenifer Lopez' butt again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 359979, member: 812"] Actually, he's right. But we use the phrase (or we should) "begging the question" to indicate that someone is using circular logic. Here's a prime example: [i]The City of God[/i], by St. Augustine. In it (and bear with me, scholars -- that actuality of what S.A. said is less important than the demonstrated principle) Augustine is arguing against the worship of the classical divinities. To drastically reduce a long and complicated argument, he says, "The divinities the Greeks describe must be less than the the divinity the Christians describe, so you must worship the Christian god." One could say that he is begging the question of the need to worship any god whatsoever. That is, he is assuming we answer the question "Should we worship a god?" in the affirmative, and proceeding with his argument from there. That example was going to be clearer when I started. It got muddy. Must have been thinking about Jenifer Lopez' butt again. [/QUOTE]

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