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<blockquote data-quote="dvvega" data-source="post: 615668" data-attributes="member: 524">About enhancement bonuses ... its part of the armour ... the bonus doesn't stop me touching the armour ... it stops me penetrating the armour and damaging you. A touch attack need not penetrate the armour, simply touch it. The &quot;enhancement&quot; is that it is better than normal armour. It's not a forcefield stopping people from touching the armour.As to the argument about other bonuses ... the wording in the PHB is pretty clear. Armour (inc natural) and shield bonuses don't count, however your other AC modifiers do count as normal. Note that, normally, the only AC bonuses you get are size/dex/deflection. This is barring operational spells on a person.They don't list EVERY SINGLE bonus/spell since it would be silly (and if new spells came out they'd have to make amendments).Its obvious what the &quot;spirit&quot; of the rule is ... they just have to touch you, so anything that stops them touching you counts. Haste would could (you're moving faster), but Magical Vestment doesn't since it enhances your armour, not your ability to dodge out of the way.Well that's my opinion anyways.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dvvega, post: 615668, member: 524"] About enhancement bonuses ... its part of the armour ... the bonus doesn't stop me touching the armour ... it stops me penetrating the armour and damaging you. A touch attack need not penetrate the armour, simply touch it. The "enhancement" is that it is better than normal armour. It's not a forcefield stopping people from touching the armour. As to the argument about other bonuses ... the wording in the PHB is pretty clear. Armour (inc natural) and shield bonuses don't count, however your other AC modifiers do count as normal. Note that, normally, the only AC bonuses you get are size/dex/deflection. This is barring operational spells on a person. They don't list EVERY SINGLE bonus/spell since it would be silly (and if new spells came out they'd have to make amendments). Its obvious what the "spirit" of the rule is ... they just have to touch you, so anything that stops them touching you counts. Haste would could (you're moving faster), but Magical Vestment doesn't since it enhances your armour, not your ability to dodge out of the way. Well that's my opinion anyways. [/QUOTE]

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