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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2228821" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Because that's what the spell says. Every creature within the area of the spell makes a (= one) grapple check. Period. That's a pretty definite description.</p><p></p><p>Spell effects happen when the spell is cast, that's how spells generally work.</p><p>Unless a spell effect mentions something, it doesn't happen.</p><p>If something happens every round, the spell description says so.</p><p></p><p>The effect of a spell has to be written in the description, that is every creature makes a (= one) grapple check. No mentioning of any additional grapple checks, unless you enter the area (whatever that means precisely (see below)). It doesn't say if, when or how any additional grapple checks would be done (except when entering the area). There's no per round or anything involved. Other comparable spells say so quite clearly, <em>Entangle</em> for example.</p><p></p><p>The spell description details how the tentacles continue to crush grappled victims, but it doesn't say, that they try to grapple escaped victims again.</p><p></p><p>That "only" you put there is not making things up, it's just a clarification (a ~ one ~ only one)... the "every round" part, however, clearly is, because there is absolutely nothing in the spell description hinting that way.</p><p></p><p>It's just how you envision the spell to work, it's not what the spell says it does.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you mean there? I just wrote, that there are two options (those are naturally different from each other) to read this: The literal way (entering the area (from outside), which can only happen if you are not inside the area already, because you cannot enter something, if you are already inside; I don't enter a house, if I move from one room to another, for example), or as entering a new square covered by the area.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 2228821, member: 478"] Because that's what the spell says. Every creature within the area of the spell makes a (= one) grapple check. Period. That's a pretty definite description. Spell effects happen when the spell is cast, that's how spells generally work. Unless a spell effect mentions something, it doesn't happen. If something happens every round, the spell description says so. The effect of a spell has to be written in the description, that is every creature makes a (= one) grapple check. No mentioning of any additional grapple checks, unless you enter the area (whatever that means precisely (see below)). It doesn't say if, when or how any additional grapple checks would be done (except when entering the area). There's no per round or anything involved. Other comparable spells say so quite clearly, [i]Entangle[/i] for example. The spell description details how the tentacles continue to crush grappled victims, but it doesn't say, that they try to grapple escaped victims again. That "only" you put there is not making things up, it's just a clarification (a ~ one ~ only one)... the "every round" part, however, clearly is, because there is absolutely nothing in the spell description hinting that way. It's just how you envision the spell to work, it's not what the spell says it does. What do you mean there? I just wrote, that there are two options (those are naturally different from each other) to read this: The literal way (entering the area (from outside), which can only happen if you are not inside the area already, because you cannot enter something, if you are already inside; I don't enter a house, if I move from one room to another, for example), or as entering a new square covered by the area. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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