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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2229167" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>Turn it around; if a caster casts a spell with a standard action and a non-concentration duration of 1 round/level, does he continue to provoke an attack of opportunity every round while the spell remains in effect? That would be kinda silly - especially when you extend it to such long-running spells as Mage Armor that nearly every mage runs continuously. That's rediculous, of course, as is your counterexample, yet it's the same situation as your counterexample, using the same basic logic as you appear (note appear) to be using for <em>Black Tentacles</em>.</p><p></p><p>You appear to be the only one claiming it's clear - which is, in and of itself, a decent argument that it's <em>not</em>.Actually, I did mention it - in a post you quoted from, in a sentence you cut apart and only partially quoted. It was persued - you just ignored it completely, so there wasn't any followup.</p><p></p><p>Which isn't unreasonable, as someone who breaks free after having been immobilized likewise doesn't become immobilized at a later date - just slowed (well, stops if fails the str check, but can still act, just hampered). Someone entering a web from outside doesn't become immobilized because that person isn't subject to a bunch of sticky strands suddenly appearing closely aboutthem on every side - they can see what's ahead and be careful about moving; if pushed suddenly, the strands only impact one side of their body, not wrapping </p><p></p><p> Out of order, I know. First: I don't believe anyone specified "ever", as most seem to say that anyone leaving and re-entering is subject to another grapple; many just point out that the language doesn't say every round, so it's not too terribly unreasonable to say that the tenticles ignore anyone who avoids the initial assault while they stick around. Second: how so is it silly, bearing First in mind?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 2229167, member: 29252"] Turn it around; if a caster casts a spell with a standard action and a non-concentration duration of 1 round/level, does he continue to provoke an attack of opportunity every round while the spell remains in effect? That would be kinda silly - especially when you extend it to such long-running spells as Mage Armor that nearly every mage runs continuously. That's rediculous, of course, as is your counterexample, yet it's the same situation as your counterexample, using the same basic logic as you appear (note appear) to be using for [i]Black Tentacles[/i]. You appear to be the only one claiming it's clear - which is, in and of itself, a decent argument that it's [i]not[/i].Actually, I did mention it - in a post you quoted from, in a sentence you cut apart and only partially quoted. It was persued - you just ignored it completely, so there wasn't any followup. Which isn't unreasonable, as someone who breaks free after having been immobilized likewise doesn't become immobilized at a later date - just slowed (well, stops if fails the str check, but can still act, just hampered). Someone entering a web from outside doesn't become immobilized because that person isn't subject to a bunch of sticky strands suddenly appearing closely aboutthem on every side - they can see what's ahead and be careful about moving; if pushed suddenly, the strands only impact one side of their body, not wrapping Out of order, I know. First: I don't believe anyone specified "ever", as most seem to say that anyone leaving and re-entering is subject to another grapple; many just point out that the language doesn't say every round, so it's not too terribly unreasonable to say that the tenticles ignore anyone who avoids the initial assault while they stick around. Second: how so is it silly, bearing First in mind? [/QUOTE]
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