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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2230533" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Total nonsense. That is precisely what you are doing. You are adding the phrase "and every round on the caster's turn".</p><p></p><p>The other posters are doing the opposite of what you are doing. They are interpreting the word "a" to mean "one" and NOT adding additional words to the sentence at all: ""Every creature within the area of the spell must make one grapple check."". Perfectly valid in the English language.</p><p></p><p>Either show us where the effect occuring every round on the caster's turn is the rule for area effect long duration spells, or admit that it is your interpretation only.</p><p></p><p>This is a rules forum Jeff, not a Jeff's interpretation forum.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Quote a RULE in the book that states this.</p><p></p><p>You are making this grandiose claim, but where are the rules to support such a position?</p><p></p><p>From the text of Evard's, there are multiple valid interpretations. For yours to be the ONLY correct one, you must quote rules that show that unless noted otherwise, all area effect long duration spells do all aspects of their effects every round on the caster's turn.</p><p></p><p>Just because some other area effect long duration spells do their damage every round on the caster's turn, does NOT mean that Evard's does it's grapple every round on the caster's turn.</p><p></p><p>From the actual text of the spell, the only thing that Evard's does every turn is damage the opponent if he is grappled.</p><p></p><p>Here is the relevant rules section of how duration spells work from the SRD:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It says NOTHING about the effect re-occurring every round on the caster's turn. For that to be the case, the spell itself has to state it. It talks about the effect no longer affecting the subject when they leave, but it does not state the frequency of it affecting them if they stay at all.</p><p></p><p>That is the RULES Jeff, what are you talking about?</p><p></p><p>As you said about me earlier in the thread:</p><p></p><p>"This is plain English, and I'm pretty sure you're arguing against it purely for the sake of arguing against it."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2230533, member: 2011"] Total nonsense. That is precisely what you are doing. You are adding the phrase "and every round on the caster's turn". The other posters are doing the opposite of what you are doing. They are interpreting the word "a" to mean "one" and NOT adding additional words to the sentence at all: ""Every creature within the area of the spell must make one grapple check."". Perfectly valid in the English language. Either show us where the effect occuring every round on the caster's turn is the rule for area effect long duration spells, or admit that it is your interpretation only. This is a rules forum Jeff, not a Jeff's interpretation forum. Quote a RULE in the book that states this. You are making this grandiose claim, but where are the rules to support such a position? From the text of Evard's, there are multiple valid interpretations. For yours to be the ONLY correct one, you must quote rules that show that unless noted otherwise, all area effect long duration spells do all aspects of their effects every round on the caster's turn. Just because some other area effect long duration spells do their damage every round on the caster's turn, does NOT mean that Evard's does it's grapple every round on the caster's turn. From the actual text of the spell, the only thing that Evard's does every turn is damage the opponent if he is grappled. Here is the relevant rules section of how duration spells work from the SRD: It says NOTHING about the effect re-occurring every round on the caster's turn. For that to be the case, the spell itself has to state it. It talks about the effect no longer affecting the subject when they leave, but it does not state the frequency of it affecting them if they stay at all. That is the RULES Jeff, what are you talking about? As you said about me earlier in the thread: "This is plain English, and I'm pretty sure you're arguing against it purely for the sake of arguing against it." [/QUOTE]
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