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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 2459879" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>I'ld like to just throw my $0.01 worth in here. This is JMHO of the interpretation of the situation. YMMV.</p><p></p><p>On this specific instance of the master throwing gaining a ranged "touch" attack with a weapon vs. DR...</p><p></p><p>1) Why mention Touch Attacks?</p><p>The point of this ability is NOT to make the attack act as a magical attack. The ability calls out that it is a ranged touch attack as a simplified ruling. The "touch" rules are only applied because the ability is allowing the thrower to bypass Armor bonuses, Natural Armor bonuses and Shield bonuses to AC. In effect the ability allows the thrower to hit a target much more easily than they normally would. It is <strong>NOT</strong> meant to give the weapon attack the properties of a spell attack.</p><p></p><p>2) Does DR apply?</p><p>Yes, DR applies to this "weapon attack" just as it does for any other weapon attack. This is NOT a Spell, Spell-like Ability, or an Energy Attack. It is a weapon attack.</p><p></p><p>Thus the thrower hurls his dagger and rolls an attack versus a TOUCH AC. If the attack is successful, the damage is resolved normally as per any weapon attack. Thus if the target has DR 5/- and the attack only deals 3 points of damage, no damage is assigned to the target as it was absorbed by their DR. The thrower has wasted their ability, just like if a Paladin 'Smites' a non-evil creature.</p><p></p><p>However, if the weapon in question in the above example has poison, an energy effect, or is carrying a touch spell such as through a spell channeling ability, these effects DO affect the target as the attack was successful. </p><p></p><p>So lets say the thrower has a 12 Strength and is using a Flaming dagger (+1d6 fire) and hits with the dagger against the opponent with DR 5/-. The dagger deals 1d4 +1 STR +1d6 Fire. In this scenario say the dagger deals 4 damage with an added 5 fire damage. The Piercing damage of 5 (4+1 STR) is absorbed by the DR 5/- but the Energy damage of 5 effects the target normally (assuming they do not also have Fire Resistance 5 or better).</p><p></p><p>Clearer?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 2459879, member: 2167"] I'ld like to just throw my $0.01 worth in here. This is JMHO of the interpretation of the situation. YMMV. On this specific instance of the master throwing gaining a ranged "touch" attack with a weapon vs. DR... 1) Why mention Touch Attacks? The point of this ability is NOT to make the attack act as a magical attack. The ability calls out that it is a ranged touch attack as a simplified ruling. The "touch" rules are only applied because the ability is allowing the thrower to bypass Armor bonuses, Natural Armor bonuses and Shield bonuses to AC. In effect the ability allows the thrower to hit a target much more easily than they normally would. It is [b]NOT[/b] meant to give the weapon attack the properties of a spell attack. 2) Does DR apply? Yes, DR applies to this "weapon attack" just as it does for any other weapon attack. This is NOT a Spell, Spell-like Ability, or an Energy Attack. It is a weapon attack. Thus the thrower hurls his dagger and rolls an attack versus a TOUCH AC. If the attack is successful, the damage is resolved normally as per any weapon attack. Thus if the target has DR 5/- and the attack only deals 3 points of damage, no damage is assigned to the target as it was absorbed by their DR. The thrower has wasted their ability, just like if a Paladin 'Smites' a non-evil creature. However, if the weapon in question in the above example has poison, an energy effect, or is carrying a touch spell such as through a spell channeling ability, these effects DO affect the target as the attack was successful. So lets say the thrower has a 12 Strength and is using a Flaming dagger (+1d6 fire) and hits with the dagger against the opponent with DR 5/-. The dagger deals 1d4 +1 STR +1d6 Fire. In this scenario say the dagger deals 4 damage with an added 5 fire damage. The Piercing damage of 5 (4+1 STR) is absorbed by the DR 5/- but the Energy damage of 5 effects the target normally (assuming they do not also have Fire Resistance 5 or better). Clearer? [/QUOTE]
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