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<blockquote data-quote="Jhyrryl" data-source="post: 1111886" data-attributes="member: 6406">I'm pretty sure that reducing a caster's primary attribute does not take away actual slots, which are strictly a function of the caster's level; it only takes away the ability to cast spells of that level.&nbsp; So a 17th-level Wizard who only has an Int of 18 gains a 9th-level slot, he simply can't learn a 9th-level spell to put in the slot.&nbsp; He can however, use the slot to hold a lower-level spell.&nbsp;The question then is, does applying a metamagic feat to a spell increase the level of the spell for purposes of being usable, or is it still considered to be its original level, the same way that it's still lower-level for purposes of determining DCs, penetrating globes of invulnerability, etc.?&nbsp; My thinking is that, other than a heightened spell, which actually increases the spell's level, applying metamagic doesn't make the spell any more difficult to cast in this context, it just requires more energy, as defined by a needing a higher level slot.&nbsp;I think I'm convincing myself.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jhyrryl, post: 1111886, member: 6406"] I'm pretty sure that reducing a caster's primary attribute does not take away actual slots, which are strictly a function of the caster's level; it only takes away the ability to cast spells of that level. So a 17th-level Wizard who only has an Int of 18 gains a 9th-level slot, he simply can't learn a 9th-level spell to put in the slot. He can however, use the slot to hold a lower-level spell. The question then is, does applying a metamagic feat to a spell increase the level of the spell for purposes of being usable, or is it still considered to be its original level, the same way that it's still lower-level for purposes of determining DCs, penetrating [i]globes of invulnerability[/i], etc.? My thinking is that, other than a heightened spell, which actually increases the spell's level, applying metamagic doesn't make the spell any more difficult to cast in this context, it just requires more energy, as defined by a needing a higher level slot. I think I'm convincing myself. :) [/QUOTE]

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