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<blockquote data-quote="silburnl" data-source="post: 1052756" data-attributes="member: 13560"><p>Hmmm. The evidence is mounting that this guy is a gaming asshat. He seems to be stuck in an adversarial model (DM vs players) of roleplaying, which is fine if that's the way you like to play - but he's an adversarial player who cheats in order to 'win' and hogs all the screentime in the game which is irritating (to say the least) for everyone else. He seems to be unaware of the fact that gaming is a social activity and that if his co-players aren't having fun then (for those players at least) he's 'doing it wrong'. Its quite possible that he doesn't even realise what an asshat he's being - if he was taught that 'this is the way to play' by abusive DMs earlier in his gaming career then he may not be aware that there's a problem.</p><p></p><p>Or he could just be a king-sized asshat.</p><p></p><p>I still think its worth trying to talk these issues out - if nothing else this guy is abusing the other players in the group so if you just walk you're abandoning them to his malign influence. By trying to make things better you might open their eyes to the possibility of good games elsewhere and if you argue your case well you might get some of them to join you in your search for a better game, even if you fail to convince Uber-Wizard guy of the error of his ways.</p><p></p><p>Have you ever been to 'The Forge' (<a href="http://www.indie-rpgs.com/" target="_blank">http://www.indie-rpgs.com/</a>)? Leave the somewhat abstruse theory to one side (it can be a shock to the system for the unprepared) and check out the 'Actual Play' forum for threads discussing 'social contract' and 'disfunctional play' - there's plenty of stuff about how to improve malign social dynamics within a game which might help you come to a decision about your situation.</p><p></p><p>Regards</p><p>Luke</p><p>-- </p><p># include witty_sig.h</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="silburnl, post: 1052756, member: 13560"] Hmmm. The evidence is mounting that this guy is a gaming asshat. He seems to be stuck in an adversarial model (DM vs players) of roleplaying, which is fine if that's the way you like to play - but he's an adversarial player who cheats in order to 'win' and hogs all the screentime in the game which is irritating (to say the least) for everyone else. He seems to be unaware of the fact that gaming is a social activity and that if his co-players aren't having fun then (for those players at least) he's 'doing it wrong'. Its quite possible that he doesn't even realise what an asshat he's being - if he was taught that 'this is the way to play' by abusive DMs earlier in his gaming career then he may not be aware that there's a problem. Or he could just be a king-sized asshat. I still think its worth trying to talk these issues out - if nothing else this guy is abusing the other players in the group so if you just walk you're abandoning them to his malign influence. By trying to make things better you might open their eyes to the possibility of good games elsewhere and if you argue your case well you might get some of them to join you in your search for a better game, even if you fail to convince Uber-Wizard guy of the error of his ways. Have you ever been to 'The Forge' ([url]http://www.indie-rpgs.com/[/url])? Leave the somewhat abstruse theory to one side (it can be a shock to the system for the unprepared) and check out the 'Actual Play' forum for threads discussing 'social contract' and 'disfunctional play' - there's plenty of stuff about how to improve malign social dynamics within a game which might help you come to a decision about your situation. Regards Luke -- # include witty_sig.h [/QUOTE]
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