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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 1332525" data-attributes="member: 2477">While I see your point, you're really kind of assuming the DM is a certain kind of person. You assume that the Honest Open Relationship would work the the DM. I'm sure he considered himself open to criticism, but if the player didn't find the same, then how open was he really? If the player keeps repeating himself, it's not Open and Honest, it's Nagging and Whining. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />it flows both ways though, the DM should obviously have seen that one of his players was disatisfied. If there's a guy that plays the game but avoids the rest of the group and otherwise acts withdrawn, the DM can broach the subject as easily as the player.having been in similar situations before, I'll present my experience, since I can't speak for his.It's not like you don't like these folks and play with them in spite of that. You start off fine, sociable. You'll find yourself getting aggravated more and more though, as minor situations that come up aren't resolved, and your questions/ concerns are rebuffed. It's not an overnight transition though, going from "you guys are fun" to "you guys are infuriating."Eventually, you reach a point where you realize the people in the game are detracting from the game for you. You realize how much you've tried to say before and it failed, so you make a decision, either stick with it, and hope the good outweighs the bad, or you just leave. There's no dishonesty about not saying anything, and the status quo continues.Eventually, you realize the longer you're around these people, the more infuriating they've become, and you just leave. Perhaps with a polite excuse, perhaps with yelling and hand gestures. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />What's also important a lot of times, is that you're one member in the group. While the rest of them are getting along great and having fun, you're getting tired of it. If they're cliquish, and you're not interested in fitting into their method's, there's no sense in trying to get them to change to your views.While I'm sure you try to live your life by such a motto, I"m sure you're also aware that a person you're dealing with in life doesn't always. This situation isn't something that's all one person's fault necasarily.</blockquote>

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