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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 1333370" data-attributes="member: 2477">A friend of mine had played with another group as well, and after some discussion, I was invited to DM them a campaign. I knew all the folks therein, as friends of friends kind of thing.First session, the old DM starts helping one of the other guys with his character. The other guy played, but really had no sense of the rules, he was just there to bash stuff. Other guys GF was also there, plus my friend and two others. Old DM is helping Other Guy make a cleric, and explaining how you get all your bonus spell levels as 1st level spells. (i.e. your wisdom gets 2 bonus 1st, one bonus 2nd, 3rd, 4th level, so that translates into 11 spell levels, so 11 bonus 1st level spells.)I explained we wouldn't be using that house rule of his, he sword it was a real rule, and then spent the rest of the session looking through the book to find it after I said &quot;prove it&quot;.So, while the other five are running through a short encounter in Hommlet, he's searching books and muttering. Everyone had a decent time I believe, but the arguement with him capped off the evening.Next session, he decided he wouldn't play with my mangled rules. (a mix of 1 &amp; 2 editions, I snuck some stuff into their 1st edition style, like d10's for init and such) I said &quot;okay, bye&quot; and he took Other Guy and his GF with him.The point to the meandering (besides me pointing out that I hated that guy) is, the rest of us, 3 PCs and the DM, played through Temple of Elemental Evil, and had a great time. The only drawback was gaming so late into the night that I was nearly dead in the mornings. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />(campaign went on for a few months)the game was much better IMO, than if their Old DM had stayed around. I'm glad he couldn't stretch himself enough to stay in the game and give it a try.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 1333370, member: 2477"] A friend of mine had played with another group as well, and after some discussion, I was invited to DM them a campaign. I knew all the folks therein, as friends of friends kind of thing. First session, the old DM starts helping one of the other guys with his character. The other guy played, but really had no sense of the rules, he was just there to bash stuff. Other guys GF was also there, plus my friend and two others. Old DM is helping Other Guy make a cleric, and explaining how you get all your bonus spell levels as 1st level spells. (i.e. your wisdom gets 2 bonus 1st, one bonus 2nd, 3rd, 4th level, so that translates into 11 spell levels, so 11 bonus 1st level spells.) I explained we wouldn't be using that house rule of his, he sword it was a real rule, and then spent the rest of the session looking through the book to find it after I said "prove it". So, while the other five are running through a short encounter in Hommlet, he's searching books and muttering. Everyone had a decent time I believe, but the arguement with him capped off the evening. Next session, he decided he wouldn't play with my mangled rules. (a mix of 1 & 2 editions, I snuck some stuff into their 1st edition style, like d10's for init and such) I said "okay, bye" and he took Other Guy and his GF with him. The point to the meandering (besides me pointing out that I hated that guy) is, the rest of us, 3 PCs and the DM, played through Temple of Elemental Evil, and had a great time. The only drawback was gaming so late into the night that I was nearly dead in the mornings. :) (campaign went on for a few months) the game was much better IMO, than if their Old DM had stayed around. I'm glad he couldn't stretch himself enough to stay in the game and give it a try. [/QUOTE]

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