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<blockquote data-quote="MarauderX" data-source="post: 1435313" data-attributes="member: 9990">Which, if you talk to a lawyer, isn't cheating.&nbsp; And a lawyer might also say if you're not cheating you're not playing.&nbsp; My problem is when it comes to players vs. players.&nbsp; As a DM and player, I don't care if others have devised some great tactics that work well for battle against a typical type of critter.&nbsp; But please don't gloat about how your PC is so much more valuable to the team than anyone else.&nbsp; When a game is stagnant the min-maxer will always prevail because they always face a typical opponent or situation.&nbsp; You have to switch that up to give everyone in the party a chance to be a hero, or else everyone watches the typical maxed cleric PC mop up the battlefield time and again.&nbsp; A min-maxer may be tweaking out his PC to beat what the DM throws at them to reduce risk; sure fine, just make sure that it doesn't take away the fun of the game.&nbsp; Strategies for 'beating' a min-maxer should be a whole new interesting thread.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MarauderX, post: 1435313, member: 9990"] Which, if you talk to a lawyer, isn't cheating. And a lawyer might also say if you're not cheating you're not playing. My problem is when it comes to players vs. players. As a DM and player, I don't care if others have devised some great tactics that work well for battle against a typical type of critter. But please don't gloat about how your PC is so much more valuable to the team than anyone else. When a game is stagnant the min-maxer will always prevail because they always face a typical opponent or situation. You have to switch that up to give everyone in the party a [I]chance[/I] to be a hero, or else everyone watches the typical maxed cleric PC mop up the battlefield time and again. A min-maxer may be tweaking out his PC to beat what the DM throws at them to reduce risk; sure fine, just make sure that it doesn't take away the fun of the game. Strategies for 'beating' a min-maxer should be a whole new interesting thread. [/QUOTE]

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