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<blockquote data-quote="Tuzenbach" data-source="post: 1435424" data-attributes="member: 16155">Untrue. If a gamer spends all of his or her energies in a mix/maxing endeavor, then that IS the &quot;real fun&quot; for them. I don't know about you, but when I'm doing random home maintenance with a hammer &amp; nails, 100 times out of 100 I'm going to try and NOT hit my thumb with the hammer. Persons generally avoid things that are painful and focus upon things that they believe will make them happy. If I've got gamers who spend 100% of the time min-maxing, guess what? They're enjoying themselves. The whole purpose of D&amp;D is not how accurately players exorcise their thespiatic skills in an effort to supply a &quot;correct&quot; portrayal of their characters. The purpose, like any other game, is to have fun. I've gamed with countless persons who really didn't know the first thing to do when informed harshly by the DM that they were &quot;playing wrong&quot; and have to &quot;act like&quot; their respective characters. I've seen a lot of good people become alientated and lose interest in D&amp;D all together that way.And a side bar: When I was DMing a lot a decade ago or so, the focus was of my campaigns were always the plot lines (I had to ensure they'd keep showing up), hidden knowledge (i.e., sure, it looks like a cool sword, but you won't know whether or not it's cursed until you shell out 1000 gp to that sage), strategy, and competition between players (which a lot of the time boiled down to which player could use their INTELLECT the most productively for the min/maxing of their character). Then a few years later I became a player in a group whose sole focus was theatrical &quot;role-playing&quot;. Horrible British accents and ridiculous Orc gruntalations were flying around and I could feel my brain slowly withering away. It was kind of like being forced to watch WWE wrestling! In short, this &quot;true&quot; interpretation of the way D&amp;D was &quot;supposed&quot; to be played (according to yourself and that DM at the time) was dreadful for me. I hated it, but had a hard time leaving for fear of hurting persons feelings and all that crap. I think I threw my character into a volcano on purpose, that's how bored and frustrated I became. [/Rant]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tuzenbach, post: 1435424, member: 16155"] Untrue. If a gamer spends all of his or her energies in a mix/maxing endeavor, then that IS the "real fun" for them. I don't know about you, but when I'm doing random home maintenance with a hammer & nails, 100 times out of 100 I'm going to try and NOT hit my thumb with the hammer. Persons generally avoid things that are painful and focus upon things that they believe will make them happy. If I've got gamers who spend 100% of the time min-maxing, guess what? They're enjoying themselves. The whole purpose of D&D is not how accurately players exorcise their thespiatic skills in an effort to supply a "correct" portrayal of their characters. The purpose, like any other game, is to have fun. I've gamed with countless persons who really didn't know the first thing to do when informed harshly by the DM that they were "playing wrong" and have to "act like" their respective characters. I've seen a lot of good people become alientated and lose interest in D&D all together that way. And a side bar: When I was DMing a lot a decade ago or so, the focus was of my campaigns were always the plot lines (I had to ensure they'd keep showing up), hidden knowledge (i.e., sure, it looks like a cool sword, but you won't know whether or not it's cursed until you shell out 1000 gp to that sage), strategy, and competition between players (which a lot of the time boiled down to which player could use their INTELLECT the most productively for the min/maxing of their character). Then a few years later I became a player in a group whose sole focus was theatrical "role-playing". Horrible British accents and ridiculous Orc gruntalations were flying around and I could feel my brain slowly withering away. It was kind of like being forced to watch WWE wrestling! In short, this "true" interpretation of the way D&D was "supposed" to be played (according to yourself and that DM at the time) was dreadful for me. I hated it, but had a hard time leaving for fear of hurting persons feelings and all that crap. I think I threw my character into a volcano on purpose, that's how bored and frustrated I became. [/Rant] [/QUOTE]

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