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<blockquote data-quote="DragonLancer" data-source="post: 1435595" data-attributes="member: 11868">I have to disagree. I have a power-gamer/twink/min-maxer (delete as appropriate) in my gaming group and the other players hate it when he starts min-maxing. In the last campaign the players had some decent characters - A ranger who was one of the best archers, a wizard who was well on his way to being an archmage and a fighter/cleric who was the scourge of anything they fought. But then this paticular player had a fighter/ranger/rogue/dwarven defender who at 8th (with a combination of class abilities, magic items and feats) ended up with an AC of 38-40! Nothing could touch him. He walked into combat like it was air. I didn't feel right throwing tougher and tougher monsters/opponents because thats unfair on the rest of the group who don't min-max.That character eventually did die in battle, and he replaced him with a cleric who wielded a scythe, and by 15th level walked in and crited pretty much anything on a 15+! That sort of min-maxing is cheating in my book (and that of the other players) because it detracts from the fun of the game, and is using the rules rather than the spirit of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DragonLancer, post: 1435595, member: 11868"] I have to disagree. I have a power-gamer/twink/min-maxer (delete as appropriate) in my gaming group and the other players hate it when he starts min-maxing. In the last campaign the players had some decent characters - A ranger who was one of the best archers, a wizard who was well on his way to being an archmage and a fighter/cleric who was the scourge of anything they fought. But then this paticular player had a fighter/ranger/rogue/dwarven defender who at 8th (with a combination of class abilities, magic items and feats) ended up with an AC of 38-40! Nothing could touch him. He walked into combat like it was air. I didn't feel right throwing tougher and tougher monsters/opponents because thats unfair on the rest of the group who don't min-max. That character eventually did die in battle, and he replaced him with a cleric who wielded a scythe, and by 15th level walked in and crited pretty much anything on a 15+! That sort of min-maxing is cheating in my book (and that of the other players) because it detracts from the fun of the game, and is using the rules rather than the spirit of the game. [/QUOTE]

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