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<blockquote data-quote="dreaded_beast" data-source="post: 1435988" data-attributes="member: 11185">Interesting replies. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The general feeling I am getting so far is that min-maxing is usually related to &quot;combat&quot; encounters.For those who dislike min-maxing because &quot;it detracts from role-play and focuses on the numbers&quot;, what about characters who &quot;min-max&quot; Charisma and Intellegence, getting many skills, feats and spells geared to non-combat encounters and focused on social interactions, etc.? Is min-maxing done strictly for &quot;combat power&quot;? One poster mentioned that DnD is generally ends up in combat anyway. Can it be done to get &quot;role-playing&quot; power as well and is that a bad thing?In my opinion, based on what has been posted so far, it seems as if the dislike in regards to min-maxing is:1. Not so much a dislike of the actual min-maxing itself, but the general personality and attitude of people who tend to min-max. According to most of the posts, this is generally at the expense of other people at the table.2. The possibility of a min-max character unbalancing the campaign in terms of combat. Unbalancing in regards to the min-maxed character being on a higher level of power than the other characters of equal level.I feel that based on many of the posts, that min-maxing itself is not &quot;bad&quot; or &quot;cheating&quot;, but that many posters have had bad experiences with players who do min-max. I believe that min-maxing itself is not the cause, but just the personality of the player.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dreaded_beast, post: 1435988, member: 11185"] Interesting replies. :) The general feeling I am getting so far is that min-maxing is usually related to "combat" encounters. For those who dislike min-maxing because "it detracts from role-play and focuses on the numbers", what about characters who "min-max" Charisma and Intellegence, getting many skills, feats and spells geared to non-combat encounters and focused on social interactions, etc.? Is min-maxing done strictly for "combat power"? One poster mentioned that DnD is generally ends up in combat anyway. Can it be done to get "role-playing" power as well and is that a bad thing? In my opinion, based on what has been posted so far, it seems as if the dislike in regards to min-maxing is: 1. Not so much a dislike of the actual min-maxing itself, but the general personality and attitude of people who tend to min-max. According to most of the posts, this is generally at the expense of other people at the table. 2. The possibility of a min-max character unbalancing the campaign in terms of combat. Unbalancing in regards to the min-maxed character being on a higher level of power than the other characters of equal level. I feel that based on many of the posts, that min-maxing itself is not "bad" or "cheating", but that many posters have had bad experiences with players who do min-max. I believe that min-maxing itself is not the cause, but just the personality of the player. [/QUOTE]

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