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<blockquote data-quote="orchid blossom" data-source="post: 1436184" data-attributes="member: 12815">I think min-maxing is less of a problem in things like Charisma and Intelligence because the player still affects these things.&nbsp; I have a high Charisma character, but no matter what, my own charisma still affects how she comes across.&nbsp; Sure, there are rolls and skills, but if I say something stupid it's going to have an adverse affect.&nbsp; Same with Intellignece.&nbsp; If my character is trying to work a puzzle that I can't figure out, that 18 INT doesn't really help.&nbsp; The DM may give a few hints because of that score, but I doubt he'd just tell me the solution.&nbsp; I still have to figure it out.With STR, there is no part of the player.&nbsp; It really comes down to what's on the sheet.&nbsp; Same with CON.&nbsp; The fact that the player passes out after one wine cooler doesn't have an iota of effect of his CON 20 Dwarfs ability to drink a keg.Anyway, thats why I think people worry much more about min-maxing in the combat heavy stats.&nbsp; OTOH, if you have a player with a forceful and persuasive personality maxing that CHR, watch out!&nbsp; You may never have a combat again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="orchid blossom, post: 1436184, member: 12815"] I think min-maxing is less of a problem in things like Charisma and Intelligence because the player still affects these things. I have a high Charisma character, but no matter what, my own charisma still affects how she comes across. Sure, there are rolls and skills, but if I say something stupid it's going to have an adverse affect. Same with Intellignece. If my character is trying to work a puzzle that I can't figure out, that 18 INT doesn't really help. The DM may give a few hints because of that score, but I doubt he'd just tell me the solution. I still have to figure it out. With STR, there is no part of the player. It really comes down to what's on the sheet. Same with CON. The fact that the player passes out after one wine cooler doesn't have an iota of effect of his CON 20 Dwarfs ability to drink a keg. Anyway, thats why I think people worry much more about min-maxing in the combat heavy stats. OTOH, if you have a player with a forceful and persuasive personality maxing that CHR, watch out! You may never have a combat again. [/QUOTE]

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