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<blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 1437564" data-attributes="member: 2238">EGO BASED THREADJACKForgot to mention that Paladin is a PrC IMC (I love UA).&nbsp; As for Rangers and Monks- Rangers abilities are pretty variable enogh to where they don't NEED to have a High Str/Dex/Wis to be an effective character.&nbsp; But I would judge a wis sub ten to be debilitating to the class.&nbsp; IMO Str and Dex are more perks, but a lot of what makes the class more than just a fighter in the woods is based around wis.&nbsp; As for monks, I find their abilities while related to stats, are not so tied to them.&nbsp; So if you can have a ranger with a lower dex you can do alright with a monk with a lower str, dex or wis.&nbsp; Basicly, if everything else is average, you are going to have at least two abilities at +1 or one at +2.&nbsp; If you have a -1 in one ability, then that indicates you would need a +2 and a +1, or a +3, or 3 +1 stats.&nbsp; So what the +2 bonus total does is makes it to where the more lower stats you have the higher the other stats need to be.&nbsp; This actually winds up generating some pretty decent stats.&nbsp; The beuty of it is that the system stil works even if you don't roll in order.&nbsp; So in practice it does not really hurt Monks and Rangers as much as you would suspect it to at first glance. I encourage anyone to roll through a couple of times using this method just to see what they get and get a feel for the numbers that result with valid sets. (this is assuming that Rangers are really Wis based, and monks abilities still works even with lower (but still positive) modifiers. Aaron.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jester47, post: 1437564, member: 2238"] EGO BASED THREADJACK Forgot to mention that Paladin is a PrC IMC (I love UA). As for Rangers and Monks- Rangers abilities are pretty variable enogh to where they don't NEED to have a High Str/Dex/Wis to be an effective character. But I would judge a wis sub ten to be debilitating to the class. IMO Str and Dex are more perks, but a lot of what makes the class more than just a fighter in the woods is based around wis. As for monks, I find their abilities while related to stats, are not so tied to them. So if you can have a ranger with a lower dex you can do alright with a monk with a lower str, dex or wis. Basicly, if everything else is average, you are going to have at least two abilities at +1 or one at +2. If you have a -1 in one ability, then that indicates you would need a +2 and a +1, or a +3, or 3 +1 stats. So what the +2 bonus total does is makes it to where the more lower stats you have the higher the other stats need to be. This actually winds up generating some pretty decent stats. The beuty of it is that the system stil works even if you don't roll in order. So in practice it does not really hurt Monks and Rangers as much as you would suspect it to at first glance. I encourage anyone to roll through a couple of times using this method just to see what they get and get a feel for the numbers that result with valid sets. (this is assuming that Rangers are really Wis based, and monks abilities still works even with lower (but still positive) modifiers. Aaron. [/QUOTE]

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