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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gort" data-source="post: 1437745" data-attributes="member: 11239">I've had to "patch" my game due to min-maxers and points buy... I run a 25-point buy game.We started out with a team of: Human Barbarian with 18 str and very little else. 8s in int and cha.Human Paladin, made by experienced player with a lot of 14s.Elven Druid with a 14 wisdom and 14 charisma.Halfling Rogue with good dex and con and 10 charisma.Nothing amazing, perhaps the barbarian was a bit munchy but his low charisma and traditional barbarian stupidity led to him being chased by guards in towns sometimes...Anyway, the paladin ended up dying through no great fault of his own, and announced that he wanted to play a new character. Came along with this:Elf wizard, 6 charisma, 18 intelligence.Of course, warning bells should have gone off in my head since this player is probably the one with the most forceful personality in the entire group, but it wasn't a major problem.The major problem showed up when the barbarian decided to make a dwarf cleric.Dwarf cleric, 6 charisma, 18 wisdom.Now of course, you could say it's my fault for not rewarding the high charisma druid enough to encourage these players to have a high charisma, but it's a bit late for blame by this point... So, I decide to reward that character now - when the characters save the empire and the emperor meets them in person, he takes a great shine to the elf and rewards him a lot more than the low charisma characters.Of course, this leads to the 6 charisma dwarf saying I'm screwing him, and saying that "if you gave us more points, you'd get characters with a higher charisma!".Anyway, I ended up giving the druid a look at a book of wisdom that gave him a +5 to wisdom, to bring him in line with the other casters. Of course, now I gotta bring the rogue up to the same level, or he'll make a character with a 6 charisma as well...*groan* What a headache - especially since the high-cha druid has the least forceful real life personality and the low-cha characters have the most forceful, so end up arguing down that player out of character anyway!</blockquote>

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