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<blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 1437781" data-attributes="member: 167">I haven't read much on this tread yet, but I aswer.I don't hate min-maxing. I like it, at least in D&amp;D and in some other systems.My both dm:s like it, I like it as pc or dm. There is only one person who dislikes min-maxing and he kind of doesn't like 3rd Ed D&amp;D. He does min-max his mechs at gurps/battletech though. I think it is about him liking tech more than magic.We don't approve of certain person in group, who tries to twist rules when min-maxing characters (he ignores rules partially), some smack-treads here&nbsp; at internet are just funny, but too illogical. In our games, not everything found in some 3rd party book in even from WotC books mix since they didn't seem to be meant.We don't like ac going impossible high. There are rules for&nbsp; everything not combining, but still a problem sometimes.Min maxing is fun, characters survive and dm can make more nasty combat tactics without fear that characters will go down just because their abilities are so unusable.Min-maxing for us is not only about combat. Some prefer to be avarage in combat, but good at skills. In group game it is possible to make very specialized character, because other characters help to balance lack of other abilities out. Sometimes min-maxing is about making someone real good at what he does, sometimes it is about getting to play jack of all trades, sometimes it is about getting as high saves as possible or something...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zelda Themelin, post: 1437781, member: 167"] I haven't read much on this tread yet, but I aswer. I don't hate min-maxing. I like it, at least in D&D and in some other systems. My both dm:s like it, I like it as pc or dm. There is only one person who dislikes min-maxing and he kind of doesn't like 3rd Ed D&D. He does min-max his mechs at gurps/battletech though. I think it is about him liking tech more than magic. We don't approve of certain person in group, who tries to twist rules when min-maxing characters (he ignores rules partially), some smack-treads here at internet are just funny, but too illogical. In our games, not everything found in some 3rd party book in even from WotC books mix since they didn't seem to be meant. We don't like ac going impossible high. There are rules for everything not combining, but still a problem sometimes. Min maxing is fun, characters survive and dm can make more nasty combat tactics without fear that characters will go down just because their abilities are so unusable. Min-maxing for us is not only about combat. Some prefer to be avarage in combat, but good at skills. In group game it is possible to make very specialized character, because other characters help to balance lack of other abilities out. Sometimes min-maxing is about making someone real good at what he does, sometimes it is about getting to play jack of all trades, sometimes it is about getting as high saves as possible or something... [/QUOTE]

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