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[TOUCHY SUBJECT] Why all the hate for min-maxing?
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<blockquote data-quote="DragonLancer" data-source="post: 1437812" data-attributes="member: 11868"><p>Yes, it is a problem with the player but I have seen it happen more often than I like, with different groups.</p><p></p><p>I have never bothered to work out the points costs of any of my player’s characters, but I find that players will play to their statistic strengths. If Player A puts his best scores into Int/Cha then he will play an arcane spellcaster. If Player B puts his best scores in Str/Con and/or Dex then he will play a combat type. These players will play their characters to the best of their abilities (pun intended.). That’s not a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My comment earlier about min-maxing being akin to cheating was not what I really meant to say (discussions on message boards are not the easiest in the world). The above quote by Trainz is exactly my view point. To combine everything and make the most powerful (min-maxed) character is not in keeping with the nature/spirit of the game.</p><p></p><p>I blame CRPG’s myself. They are too often based around a player getting as powerful as possible for the end of level baddie and I think this view has taken root in the psyche of many players.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I find this quite odd, because unlike the prior two editions of the game, Charisma is a decent stat. Its not the dump for the lowest roll. Now a fair number of skills are based upon it, and a couple classes rely on having a decent number in it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DragonLancer, post: 1437812, member: 11868"] Yes, it is a problem with the player but I have seen it happen more often than I like, with different groups. I have never bothered to work out the points costs of any of my player’s characters, but I find that players will play to their statistic strengths. If Player A puts his best scores into Int/Cha then he will play an arcane spellcaster. If Player B puts his best scores in Str/Con and/or Dex then he will play a combat type. These players will play their characters to the best of their abilities (pun intended.). That’s not a problem. My comment earlier about min-maxing being akin to cheating was not what I really meant to say (discussions on message boards are not the easiest in the world). The above quote by Trainz is exactly my view point. To combine everything and make the most powerful (min-maxed) character is not in keeping with the nature/spirit of the game. I blame CRPG’s myself. They are too often based around a player getting as powerful as possible for the end of level baddie and I think this view has taken root in the psyche of many players. I find this quite odd, because unlike the prior two editions of the game, Charisma is a decent stat. Its not the dump for the lowest roll. Now a fair number of skills are based upon it, and a couple classes rely on having a decent number in it. [/QUOTE]
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