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[TOUCHY SUBJECT] Why all the hate for min-maxing?
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<blockquote data-quote="Altalazar" data-source="post: 1438019" data-attributes="member: 939"><p>In my games, numbers less than 8 did net points, but seldom (or perhaps never?) were any stats taken that low. </p><p></p><p>We always did 32 point buys. Enough so that there can be at least one really outstanding stat without having to gut the rest of the stats. </p><p></p><p>With points lower than that, you end up with a lot of bland, almost-the same characters or worse, those who do want one good stat end up being basically cripples in their other stats. This is not the stuff heroes are made of. </p><p></p><p>Ever since I've used 32 point buy, there has never been an issue of one player out powering another. Not once. And this is not a group of uniform min/maxers or non min/maxers. </p><p></p><p>I think min/maxing is really only a BIG problem where you have non-uniform stats (i.e. rolling for stats) and/or the use of lots of unbalanced supplements for feats and such. Using the core feats plus point buy it is basically not possible to min/max a character beyond the rest of the party in any significant manner.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Altalazar, post: 1438019, member: 939"] In my games, numbers less than 8 did net points, but seldom (or perhaps never?) were any stats taken that low. We always did 32 point buys. Enough so that there can be at least one really outstanding stat without having to gut the rest of the stats. With points lower than that, you end up with a lot of bland, almost-the same characters or worse, those who do want one good stat end up being basically cripples in their other stats. This is not the stuff heroes are made of. Ever since I've used 32 point buy, there has never been an issue of one player out powering another. Not once. And this is not a group of uniform min/maxers or non min/maxers. I think min/maxing is really only a BIG problem where you have non-uniform stats (i.e. rolling for stats) and/or the use of lots of unbalanced supplements for feats and such. Using the core feats plus point buy it is basically not possible to min/max a character beyond the rest of the party in any significant manner. [/QUOTE]
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