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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 4685859" data-attributes="member: 9952">Ah yes, the Needlefang Drake - AKA 2nd lvl 'Hill Giant' swarm.We basically suffered a virtual TPK with these guys:- Scales of War AP- 2 x NFD + 1 x Lurker, 500 xp thereabouts, lvl 2 encounter for 4 guys- close combat scenario, no surprise - NFD trip as minor action, so can do twice and then bite attack- Trip is +8 vs fort, so tripping % is tipped in their favour, + can do twice per turn- Reliable tripping gives NFD combat advantage +2 hit- Hill giant damage to tripped, i.e. 2d10+4 (vs Giants 2d10+7)- Aura allows a free hill giant attack, multiple NFD auras applyBasic Sequence:- Lurker lands a blow on Pally- Paladin is wounded so second winds + holy circle + AP fighting defensively = AC 24. - Tripped, critted for 24 dam, second NFD hits = unconscious- Aura attacks (Pally gets -5 unconscious penalty to defenses) = death- Cleric is tripped, wasted + aura = killed- Warlock etc...- Wizard manages to land killing scorching burst against odds (NFD have good ref def) to save the day.Level 2 xp is awarded...Basically, the NFD is almost a deal breaker for 4E for me. I still cannot believe this lvl 2 soldier was given hill giant damage, it's basically ruined a session and threatens to poison the campaign. I mean, what other dark, smelly, seriously unfun/unfair things are we going to unearth?</blockquote>