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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 4688387" data-attributes="member: 40177">Needlefangs actually killed a whole party of 2nd levellers.&nbsp; HAd to say &quot;Okay, retry...&quot; and re-ran the adventure.&nbsp; and it still nearly killed the group.Other monsters on the list:1)&nbsp; Grells (Fun, but man are they tough... if you play 'em right, they can fly out of reach of the melee fighters, and just grab and chew on weaker party members... not to mention they can pull people up and drop 'em).2)&nbsp; Vine Horrors.&nbsp; I posted about how these guys really hurt our party.&nbsp; Mind you, I'd been following the one with the error in it (the Compedium is great, but they unfortunatley listed the VH's encounter as an &quot;At-Will&quot; that really messed things up).&nbsp; VH Spellfiends are also pretty damned tough.3)&nbsp; Blackscale Bruiser Lizardfolk.&nbsp; They can deal damage, lemme tell you!&nbsp; Mind you, this fight was only really hard because the aforementioned bruiser was also a swordmage.&nbsp; Yikes!4)&nbsp; Tiefling Heretic.&nbsp; Ran him against a 1st level group, and he was a pain to hit.&nbsp; And a pain to fight.&nbsp; He really could hurt the group.5)&nbsp; Hobgoblins, in a group, are pretty tough to hit.&nbsp; And they can really lay on a smackdown.&nbsp; I have another monster I'd love to list, but simply by listing it, I'd give away a bit of my campaign I'm not ready to divulge yet (I have players that read EN World).&nbsp; But it's one you wouldn't expect.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wik, post: 4688387, member: 40177"] Needlefangs actually killed a whole party of 2nd levellers. HAd to say "Okay, retry..." and re-ran the adventure. and it still nearly killed the group. Other monsters on the list: 1) Grells (Fun, but man are they tough... if you play 'em right, they can fly out of reach of the melee fighters, and just grab and chew on weaker party members... not to mention they can pull people up and drop 'em). 2) Vine Horrors. I posted about how these guys really hurt our party. Mind you, I'd been following the one with the error in it (the Compedium is great, but they unfortunatley listed the VH's encounter as an "At-Will" that really messed things up). VH Spellfiends are also pretty damned tough. 3) Blackscale Bruiser Lizardfolk. They can deal damage, lemme tell you! Mind you, this fight was only really hard because the aforementioned bruiser was also a swordmage. Yikes! 4) Tiefling Heretic. Ran him against a 1st level group, and he was a pain to hit. And a pain to fight. He really could hurt the group. 5) Hobgoblins, in a group, are pretty tough to hit. And they can really lay on a smackdown. I have another monster I'd love to list, but simply by listing it, I'd give away a bit of my campaign I'm not ready to divulge yet (I have players that read EN World). But it's one you wouldn't expect. [/QUOTE]

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