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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Milambus" data-source="post: 4660217" data-attributes="member: 74238">You are correct.  I had made a mistake in my spreadsheet.  (For full disclosure I was mistakenly adding the HP gained per level to level 1.  So at level 1 a Fighter had thier base 15 + 6 + Con score.)Having corrected the above mistake, a Fighter with 16 con has more daily with Toughness at levels 1, 3, 5, and 11.  That being said the difference even at level 30 is 919 hp (Durable) to 897 (Toughness).  What I meant by this comment was that anytime you spend a healing surge and gain a bonus to that healing (say 1d6 + WIS from a cleric casting Healing Word), you make durable more effective.    Or at least, the potential for such bonuses to the surge value adds to the value of the Durable feat.  So if your groups has a Cleric during combat, and/or a bard post combat then Durable adds even more to your daily HPs.All that being said, total current HP can have a benefit over the potential daily HPs.  Group makeup, your role within that group, your level and other factors can help to determine which feat is best for you.  But of course, taking both feats is even better since the effects from the feats are multiplicative.  (</blockquote>