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<blockquote data-quote="Diggus Rex" data-source="post: 3294971" data-attributes="member: 46101"><p>Not really, but let's get off sand fish et al. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>I just checked out Raven's version. Here's my concern: If ya got'em with a bonused Sense Motive <strong>and</strong> a super deep perception of a beings' minds it's really powerful. Raven went with them just having a super-duper Sense motive: all of the limitations of the normal skill but they're just <em>really</em> good at it. You're giving them more abilities than the normal skill <em><strong>and</strong></em> a bonus to it. Either is good, together too much I think. </p><p></p><p>Really, when I think about, there are no good examples of average Betazoids in the whole franchise. Half-Breed, super sensitive, psychopath, comatose, and middle-aged nympho. Lt. Stadi from Voyager's premiere was our best hope, but died before act II <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p>Working with what we have, Lwaxana is very good at picking out <em>surface</em> thoughts. She cuts you off before you're about to say something and can tell you want to see her naked at Deanna's wedding. Also, she can tell when an Antedan terrorist is <em>about to </em> blow up a conference with ultritium charges, but not if he's not thinking about it. She doesnt know that Pappa favored brother Robert over you, that's a guarded memory. Just because thoughts arent usally heard doesnt make them secret. I dont think the answer is in higher DC's, maybe just do what Raven did but lower the bonus and make it ranged. </p><p></p><p>On the mind chat, I think it's so common amongst Betazoids, one would need to take a Drawback <em>not</em> to have it. I'm thinking we <em>are</em> statting the low level telepath, with those in the show being exceptionally strong or handicapped (like Suder). Really it's a small advantage over a regular species language. </p><p></p><p>Dude, you dont have to go 'yoink' if I'm <em>giving</em> it to ya. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Diggus Rex, post: 3294971, member: 46101"] Not really, but let's get off sand fish et al. ;) I just checked out Raven's version. Here's my concern: If ya got'em with a bonused Sense Motive [B]and[/B] a super deep perception of a beings' minds it's really powerful. Raven went with them just having a super-duper Sense motive: all of the limitations of the normal skill but they're just [I]really[/I] good at it. You're giving them more abilities than the normal skill [I][B]and[/B][/I] a bonus to it. Either is good, together too much I think. Really, when I think about, there are no good examples of average Betazoids in the whole franchise. Half-Breed, super sensitive, psychopath, comatose, and middle-aged nympho. Lt. Stadi from Voyager's premiere was our best hope, but died before act II :p Working with what we have, Lwaxana is very good at picking out [I]surface[/I] thoughts. She cuts you off before you're about to say something and can tell you want to see her naked at Deanna's wedding. Also, she can tell when an Antedan terrorist is [I]about to [/I] blow up a conference with ultritium charges, but not if he's not thinking about it. She doesnt know that Pappa favored brother Robert over you, that's a guarded memory. Just because thoughts arent usally heard doesnt make them secret. I dont think the answer is in higher DC's, maybe just do what Raven did but lower the bonus and make it ranged. On the mind chat, I think it's so common amongst Betazoids, one would need to take a Drawback [I]not[/I] to have it. I'm thinking we [I]are[/I] statting the low level telepath, with those in the show being exceptionally strong or handicapped (like Suder). Really it's a small advantage over a regular species language. Dude, you dont have to go 'yoink' if I'm [I]giving[/I] it to ya. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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