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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 2799668" data-attributes="member: 9225">Don't get me wrong. I think yours is the best of the lot, Wil, but a methodology like this just won't work as a total model, in my opinionUnfortunately, this leaves out people are are strictly interested in the character as a playing piece premise for problem solving. If we stretch "assume" to accept this then we include the noise of non-RPG activities, like Talisman, V:TES and Monopoly.I think the question of whether a game character or a real life persona grants more control is unanswerable.Again, there are questions about the motive and intention that are too subjective to resolve. We can think of flawed commonsense objections, but not very strict ones.*However*, these attempts at definition are not useless as long as they are understood in a certain context, as one of a group of perspectives about a phenomenon and not the final word on it. The primary problem with Forge theory is that it is *totalizing* -- it claims to encompass everything -- so simply coming up with a new totalizing theory isn't solving that.</blockquote>