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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8704818" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>This I will disagree with. </p><p></p><p>Fandoms are being painted as toxic because they are, in fact, toxic. Unrelentingly negative. It’s not enough to say, “I don’t like this.” No for the Toxic Fan, you must be told over and over and over why something you like is terrible, and you are an idiot for even considering it anything less than an affront to things good and right. </p><p></p><p>Look at the treatment of Wil Wheaton. Some teenage kid goes to conventions where people are proudly displaying Kill Wesley Crusher buttons. Or the treatment of that kid who played Anakin in the first prequel. On and on and on. </p><p></p><p>The reason that perfectly reasonable critisms get buried is because the completely unreasonable toxic mouth breathers aren’t interested in a conversation. They just want to tear everything down. </p><p></p><p>So if you have a reasonable concern about something, you wind up not being able to voice it because there are ten thousand unreasonable voices screaming at the top of their lungs.</p><p></p><p>In DnD you saw this with the 4e edition wars. DnD gets mentioned in a high profile place like Newsweek. Finally gets some mainstream attention and if you make the mistake of looking at the comments section it’s post after post about how 4e suxxors. It was mind blowing. </p><p></p><p>So if actually did have a reasonable concern with 4e and there are many perfectly reasonable concerns- it didn’t matter. If you said something negative there’d be an immediate dogpile of people shouting about how you hate 4e and and equal number patting you on the back for showing these newbies how much their game sucks. </p><p></p><p>It made conversation utterly impossible. </p><p></p><p>And that certainly wasn’t being fueled by media companies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8704818, member: 22779"] This I will disagree with. Fandoms are being painted as toxic because they are, in fact, toxic. Unrelentingly negative. It’s not enough to say, “I don’t like this.” No for the Toxic Fan, you must be told over and over and over why something you like is terrible, and you are an idiot for even considering it anything less than an affront to things good and right. Look at the treatment of Wil Wheaton. Some teenage kid goes to conventions where people are proudly displaying Kill Wesley Crusher buttons. Or the treatment of that kid who played Anakin in the first prequel. On and on and on. The reason that perfectly reasonable critisms get buried is because the completely unreasonable toxic mouth breathers aren’t interested in a conversation. They just want to tear everything down. So if you have a reasonable concern about something, you wind up not being able to voice it because there are ten thousand unreasonable voices screaming at the top of their lungs. In DnD you saw this with the 4e edition wars. DnD gets mentioned in a high profile place like Newsweek. Finally gets some mainstream attention and if you make the mistake of looking at the comments section it’s post after post about how 4e suxxors. It was mind blowing. So if actually did have a reasonable concern with 4e and there are many perfectly reasonable concerns- it didn’t matter. If you said something negative there’d be an immediate dogpile of people shouting about how you hate 4e and and equal number patting you on the back for showing these newbies how much their game sucks. It made conversation utterly impossible. And that certainly wasn’t being fueled by media companies. [/QUOTE]
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