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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8705662" data-attributes="member: 4937">I was particularly referring to the perspective of a fan of the game during the 1990s watching the brand die in a sea of ill thought out printings none of which were making a particularly large amount of money.  That perspective I think is one I could have sympathy for.No, I think we are on exactly the same page.  I think I would just reverse that perspective.  If you look at the perspective of a Star Wars fan immersed in the "Legends" Star Wars lore and what expectations they had for what would be the focus of stories involving beloved characters like Luke, Leia, and Han they are ones whose wishes were denied and who have no forever lost the chance to get what they wanted as a conclusion to the story and to put those characters into the places that they had imagined for them.  And for that they are labeled toxic and accused of being the worst sort of people no matter what their complaint actually was.  They get to enjoy being labeled with the old stereotypes about nerds and get to enjoy having those stereotypes treated as legitimate in the way we wouldn't allow a large group of people to be labelled by the behavior of the few any more and would treat as problematic.And the same thing is going on with the Tolkien fans.  Fans that see their wants for how the Second Age are to be presented and whose visions of what was going on in the Second Age are going to have their wishes denied.  There is not going to be a Second Age that is going to be presented in a way that the crotchety old Professor Tolkien wouldn't find problematic, and so his fans are going to have their wishes denied.  And for that they are going to be labeled toxic no matter what or how reasonable their objections actually are.  They are going to be denied the product they want.  And I'm not really sure we should put the toxicity on them or the brand managers.</blockquote>

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