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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8705996" data-attributes="member: 22779">It's funny you bring this up.&nbsp; I just started watching the Orville.&nbsp; Couldn't see it here until recently.I've gotten up to the sixth episode of season one and it's utter, utter crap.&nbsp; Insulting crap.&nbsp; I guess some people enjoy it, but, I can't for the life of me see why.&nbsp; The last episode I've watched has the helmsman dry humping a statue and then being put on social media trial for it, resulting in his possible lobotomization.&nbsp; Cool plotline done SO much better in Black Mirror.&nbsp; In this?&nbsp; I'm rooting for the bad guys to lobotomize this guy because he's so thoroughly unlikable.&nbsp; Oh, and then the episode ends with this incredibly paternalistic &quot;do better&quot; message from the characters who caused 100% of their own problems because they were so completely oblivious to other cultures that they couldn't even be bothered learning even the most basic facts about the culture they're supposed to be infiltrating.Maybe the series gets better after this?&nbsp; I dunno.&nbsp; The first six episodes have taught me that all religion is mind alteringly evil, forcing people to be racist genocidal maniacs who abuse their own people in the name of some belief.&nbsp; That all other cultures are morally bankrupt and only the Union has any sort of morality at all, but, instead of being a showcase for that morality, are just a bully pulpit for the writers to show how superior they are.Bleah.&nbsp; This is what people think is an &quot;enjoyable version of Star Trek&quot;?&nbsp; No thanks.&nbsp; It's not even parody.&nbsp; It's just mean spirited attacks on anyone who is different without even the slightest attempt to be even handed./rant off.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8705996, member: 22779"] It's funny you bring this up. I just started watching the Orville. Couldn't see it here until recently. I've gotten up to the sixth episode of season one and it's utter, utter crap. Insulting crap. I guess some people enjoy it, but, I can't for the life of me see why. The last episode I've watched has the helmsman dry humping a statue and then being put on social media trial for it, resulting in his possible lobotomization. Cool plotline done SO much better in Black Mirror. In this? I'm rooting for the bad guys to lobotomize this guy because he's so thoroughly unlikable. Oh, and then the episode ends with this incredibly paternalistic "do better" message from the characters who caused 100% of their own problems because they were so completely oblivious to other cultures that they couldn't even be bothered learning even the most basic facts about the culture they're supposed to be infiltrating. Maybe the series gets better after this? I dunno. The first six episodes have taught me that all religion is mind alteringly evil, forcing people to be racist genocidal maniacs who abuse their own people in the name of some belief. That all other cultures are morally bankrupt and only the Union has any sort of morality at all, but, instead of being a showcase for that morality, are just a bully pulpit for the writers to show how superior they are. Bleah. This is what people think is an "enjoyable version of Star Trek"? No thanks. It's not even parody. It's just mean spirited attacks on anyone who is different without even the slightest attempt to be even handed. /rant off. [/QUOTE]

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